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Default BFG A/T load range question

Have a 2006 non-TRD 4X4 Tacoma with OEM Dunlop AT20s (245/75/16). I'm pretty sure I want some BFG A/Ts, but am still debating exactly what size. I really want 265/75/16, but can only find them in an E load range. I'd rather have a C or D. The 265/70/16s come in a D range, but are basically no taller than the OEM Dunlops. I want a slightly taller tire to correct the speedo. Are any of you running E load range A/Ts, and if so, how is the ride? I'm afraid that the E tires are too much tire (too stiff/heavy) for a Tacoma. Any help would be appreciated.
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I agree with not wanting a LR-E on your Tacoma. Some guys run 'em, but I would not -- in fact, I avoid LR-D also. Besides a heavier tire affecting the ride, your fuel mileage will suffer. Unfortunately BFG does not make All-Terrains in LR-C, but they do make LR-D.... you may have to widen your search to find 'em.
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Default Re: BFG A/T load range question

I got BFG A/T with LR-D 265-75-16. I run them at approx 30PSI (pretty much whatever it indicated on the door panel). I don't find the ride or milage noticably different from my stock Rugged Trails.
I specifically went for the D's though, as I too have heard that the ride is rough with E's.

Have you checked tire rack?

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Hey Shawn, TireRack currently carries only LR-E but America's Tire has both D and E....
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I would just stick with the 245/75/16's. You're talking about 30.6" versus 31.6" diamter so you're technically only really gaining 1/2" of practical ground clearance which won't do d*ck anywhere other than cause your speedo to read wrong, cost you significantly more $$$ to buy, cost you more to run as 265's are wider tires which affect your mileage (rolling resisitance/friction from wider tire), your traction in snow slightly and inclinment weather will be down because 265's cause less of the trucks weight to be exerted over it's now larger surface area. Plus you can keep your Load Range C tires for better ride comfort.
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The speedo is already annoyingly fast; according to many threads that I've searched, going from 245/75 to 265/75 will put it right on the money.

tire rack only lists LR-E, as does BFG website. I'll have to search for America's Tire. tire rack has 265/75/16 LR-E on sale for $149 each. Great price for the wrong tire.

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Just checked Americas Tire/Discount Tire, and they have 265/75/16 LR-D, but they are $220 each




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I bought Coopers last year and have been very happy with them so far. If you're interested, Discount Tires, Wheels & ATV | Treadepot.com has a super price on their P-metrics right now, only $96. Be sure to check shipping costs...

Here's the tire DISCOVERER ATR P-METRIC


BTW, they have the same Cooper but in LR-C for just $109...

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Thanks for the heads-up. I'm also looking at Firestone Destination A/Ts. Read nothing but good about them, especially for the price. They make a P-metric and a LR-C that are both a lot lighter than the BFG LR-D. A buddy has them on his F-150 and gives them the thumbs-up as well. I gotta do something soon--the AT-20s have had it.
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The speedo is already annoyingly fast; according to many threads that I've searched, going from 245/75 to 265/75 will put it right on the money.

tire rack only lists LR-E, as does BFG website. I'll have to search for America's Tire. tire rack has 265/75/16 LR-E on sale for $149 each. Great price for the wrong tire.
How do YOU know your Speedo is fast?

So you completely disregard every single point I made about sticking with the 245/75/16's? There are a good chunk more advantages to sticking with the narrower & slighty smaller diameter tire. Are you hung on gaining 1/2" of ground clearance? Will that make you some prodiguous offroader all of a sudden? Are you going to regear now since you made the HUGE jump in tire size?
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How do YOU know your Speedo is fast?

So you completely disregard every single point I made about sticking with the 245/75/16's? There are a good chunk more advantages to sticking with the narrower & slighty smaller diameter tire. Are you hung on gaining 1/2" of ground clearance? Will that make you some prodiguous offroader all of a sudden? Are you going to regear now since you made the HUGE jump in tire size?

Because my GPS told me so.

Some of your points in your first post are not valid, IMO.

A. It will fix my speedo--you assumed that it would throw my speedo off, because you didn't read all of my post.

B. Bigger tires will not cost significantly more to buy. The BFGs I initially posted about are actually $5 cheaper than the 245s that you recommend (on sale at tire rack--again read all of my post). Also, the Firestone A/Ts are $7 extra for a 265 over a 245. Not a significant amount in my book.

C. How can additional rolling resistance reduce mileage AND traction? I call BS.

D. You belittle me for wanting a tire ONLY 1" taller, then talk about regearing for such a huge tire?


Your sarcasm and tone are not what I asked for when I originally wrote that any help would be appreciated. Why do you give a s**t what size tire I buy?
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How do YOU know your Speedo is fast?

So you completely disregard every single point I made about sticking with the 245/75/16's? There are a good chunk more advantages to sticking with the narrower & slighty smaller diameter tire. Are you hung on gaining 1/2" of ground clearance? Will that make you some prodiguous offroader all of a sudden? Are you going to regear now since you made the HUGE jump in tire size?

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I checked my speedo with my GPS too and mine is about 2 to 2.5 MPH fast at 55 to 60 MPH. That is about 4% "mileage warranty" that Toyota is getting back for free from me.

Stock BFGs on 2009 Tacoma, DCSB, TRD, OR.

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Cooper also makes the Mastercraft tires that are very popular in Tahoe (snow country). I'm close to needing new tires too (down to 6/32nds which is the minimum for snow conditions on the highways) and haven't decided what I'm going to do. I'd like to find something cheaper than the BFG A/T and want to go with 265/75 to fix my speedo error too. I'll have to do a lot of shopping around. I'm not sure on the Discoverer ATRs though.

Splicer, do you get a tread pattern vibration over 70 mph in the Taco with them? We sure do in our Highlander (BTW, it's back to the body shop again tomorrow with a mismatched wheel...the insurance company went rebuilt rather than new and the chrome looks more gray compared to the originals... rattles in the dash, suspension klunk over harsh bumps, and rattles over rough road...all this going into month 3! They should have totaled it!).
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[QUOTE=05Moose;1356656]Cooper also makes the Mastercraft tires that are very popular in Tahoe (snow country). I'm close to needing new tires too (down to 6/32nds which is the minimum for snow conditions on the highways) and haven't decided what I'm going to do. I'd like to find something cheaper than the BFG A/T and want to go with 265/75 to fix my speedo error too. I'll have to do a lot of shopping around. I'm not sure on the Discoverer ATRs though.
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I was also looking at Michelin LTX A/T, but thought they were a little weak for the price. I really want the BFG A/T, but don't think I should put 55 lb. tires on each wheel. You look into/know much about the Firestones Destination A/T? That's what I'm really leaning toward now. tire rack has them for $116/each (265/75). A local Firestone tire store had a buy 3 get 1 free sale that ended yesterday. The lady took all my info and said the price would be good for a month (for me). $582 mounted, balanced, and out the door. I think I need to call them soon.
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Some of the best tire prices and tire buying experiences that I have encountered were at COSTCO.

And they are very careful to torque wheels lug nuts to your exact wheel specs. and rotations and nitrogen is at no additional cost too.

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