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This is a discussion thread titled "'05 Tacoma really fast!", within the Tacoma forum, part of the Truck Forums category.
No I'm not being sarcastic, 0-60 in 7.4 is pretty fast IMHO for a stock 4x4 double cab truck. C&D says it is faster than any other compact truck made including the upcoming Dakota V8. 7.4 isn't fast compared to a lot of sports cars or specialty trucks like Lightening or RAM SRT but remember that's stock 4x4 truck.
Tundranized, I don't recall any words saying pre-production so I think it's pretty much what will be sold.
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Well seeing as the truck was given to them in the summer and they start production next week it was a pre-production piece. And there was a comment in the article, "Except for some gearbox rattle in first (possibly a fault of our preproduction unit)"
That may seem good but Car and Drive does some crazy things with manual transmission vehicles to get the acceleration numbers they get. Usually they rev the engine way high and dump the clutch to get those numbers which is something that no normal driver would ever do to their brand new $25,000 truck. In real life driving situations where you would use a normal take off it's probably more like low 8's to high nines. If you read Consumer reports where they use more practical acceleration testing that won’t reduce your transmissions life by more than half you’ll see that their numbers are generally higher than C&D numbers for the same vehicle.
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If you read Consumer reports where they use more practical acceleration testing that won’t reduce your transmissions life by more than half you’ll see that their numbers are generally higher than C&D numbers for the same vehicle.
And sometimes even faster times than the manufacturers themselves.
I remember a 4x4 Tacoma a few years back the driver kept trying to race me in my Explorer he would rev the engine to what seemed like its max and dump the clutch when the signal light turned green and then power shift the next gear. He did this at 4-5 intersections I was amazed that some one would abuse their truck in such a way, I was also surprised he did not leave a bunch of broken parts at each intersection !!!
I remember a 4x4 Tacoma a few years back the driver kept trying to race me in my Explorer he would rev the engine to what seemed like its max and dump the clutch when the signal light turned green and then power shift the next gear. He did this at 4-5 intersections I was amazed that some one would abuse their truck in such a way, I was also surprised he did not leave a bunch of broken parts at each intersection !!!
It's not suprising. It's a Toyota.
Toyota trucks like Land Cruiser and HiLux see a lot of abuse in third world country where people haul their whole family on the truck and driving on unimproved roads.
You guys crack me up. Yes, I'm sure they revved the motor up to improve the times of the truck but at a certain point to many revs just breaks the tires loose and that results in a loss of time. If the new Tacoma cant take a 2 or 3k clutch drop than they need to go back to the drawing board. And yes powershifting is bad for a tranny, the shifting forks to be exact, but I seriously doubt he was powershifting as it is extremely hard to do in trucks as the shifter throws are very long and which makes it very hard to do.
Whatever they did to get those numbers...the most important thing to remember is that when they're done (and possibly a few other mags) that truck is going to the shredder. I would expect reasonable 8.5's for a vehicle that you or I would actually consider to be an investment and treat accordingly
But even 8.5s is still pretty quick considering thats 4000 lb of truck you're pushing and a 4x4 driveline. My 99 accord v6 was reported 8.5s 0-60 and it was a bit faster then I ever came across the need for.
Some decent torque numbers behind that 4l V6 too. If I remember correctly the last gen. S-runner was capable of a ~7.7sec 0-60 time and that was the sports model/2wd/V6. Now if it's younger sibling just ran that well on 87 octane...
You guys crack me up. Yes, I'm sure they revved the motor up to improve the times of the truck but at a certain point to many revs just breaks the tires loose and that results in a loss of time. If the new Tacoma cant take a 2 or 3k clutch drop than they need to go back to the drawing board. And yes powershifting is bad for a tranny, the shifting forks to be exact, but I seriously doubt he was powershifting as it is extremely hard to do in trucks as the shifter throws are very long and which makes it very hard to do.
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What exactly is power shifting?
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Close but no cigar. Powershifting is shifting while keeping the gas pedal floored. If done right it won't harm the tranny, if you miscalculate when to let off the clutch you can damage the synchros and or shifting forks.
I have personally power shifted some of my 800+ HP Supras (and at as high as 7800 RPM's) and have never had a trans problem. I don't anymore as it's not really needed.
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Shifting without using the clutch.
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The 0-60 times car and driver comes up with are basically irrelevant to the effects it has on the truck itself. The point of their testing is to see how fast the car (or truck) can get to that speed from zero, not how fast they can get the car (or truck) to sixty under normal driviving conditions. TEAR IT UP!
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