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TacomaGeneral discussion forum for the 2005 and later Toyota Tacoma.
This is a discussion thread titled "Frontier vs. Tacoma (Round 2)", within the Tacoma forum, part of the Truck Forums category.
AMEN! and Aleluia! I saw my first Ridgeline today in person and I could not bring myself to stop and look at it any closer! The Titan has competition now!
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Unless you're after severe off-road capability, I'm finding it very hard to imagine how either of these trucks is going to compete with the Honda Ridgeline. Honda probably isn't going to build very many trucks this year though so they will be relatively hard to find and they won't be sold for less than MSRP. I know it will be a while before brand loyalists will even consider a truck from Honda but it's looking very appealing to me. I hoping to be able to see one in person in a week or so.
Are you sure you didn't mean to say "Unless you're planning to use it as a real truck instead of a poser mobile..." ?
The Ridgeline is just another fashion statement that is of limited value as a truck. Think Avalanche, Explorer Sport Track, etc. A 5ft bed is simply not acceptable in a truck.
Are you sure you didn't mean to say "Unless you're planning to use it as a real truck instead of a poser mobile..." ?
The Ridgeline is just another fashion statement that is of limited value as a truck. Think Avalanche, Explorer Sport Track, etc. A 5ft bed is simply not acceptable in a truck.
So if I haul 5ft worth of stuff, It is better to buy a long bed super duty......hmmmmm I think somebody needs a reality check.
So if I haul 5ft worth of stuff, It is better to buy a long bed super duty......hmmmmm I think somebody needs a reality check.
No - he is right - regardless of your opinon of the Ridgeline, it isn't really a truck - its a mini van (Odyssey) turned into a SUV (Pilot), turned into a pseudo truck. Don't take this a slam. A Ridegline is fine, if that is what you want, but it can't really be compared to a "real" truck, like a Tacoma.
Frontiers steering wheel has cruise control and stereo control levers and buttons, which the Tacoma did not have. Also Frontier comes with 6-inch "subs" (true subs are about 10 inches) mounted under the seats, something tacoma also lacks.
The Tacomas DO have this as well. I'm still trying to figure out how many inches the sub is in the back of my Tacoma.
No - he is right - regardless of your opinon of the Ridgeline, it isn't really a truck - its a mini van (Odyssey) turned into a SUV (Pilot), turned into a pseudo truck. Don't take this a slam. A Ridegline is fine, if that is what you want, but it can't really be compared to a "real" truck, like a Tacoma.
I still disagree. What is a "real truck" then? We have choices and a Ridgeline is one of those choices. If your logic is because it has an IRS...then I guess the 4wd toytas have not been real trucks since 85, because they went to IFS. If it is because they dont have a seperate frame then I guess the small late 80s jeep truck wasnt a truck either, which is essentially a cherokee that I see quite often on the trails. The Tacoma now has push button 4wd, which is derived from AWD cars. hmmmmm
People said the Tundra wasnt a real fullsize truck...I disagreed with them too. It was a smaller version made by toyota for the full size class.
If it has an open bed and can haul and tow just like other 1/2 tons it is a truck. It may not be the truck that fits your needs, but it is a truck and the market is growing every year.
I do not like the Ridgeline, and am not considering one at all, but most likely, I will have a 5ft bed Tacoma, that I consider as a truck. (a multi purpose truck)
I saw a dually SD 4door long bed yesterday with an fx4 off road package!?! It was funny, but it is good to have choices.
Did someone say that the Ridgeline is a Fashion Statement!
Isn't that what they said about the Odyssey and that it could not compete with American vans!
Give it a few years and companies like Chevy will go over it with a fine tooth comb so they could figure out how to design a new truck instead of giving us the same SOS that needs redesigning!
"thats what I think"
I still like the Tacoma but the only thing holding me back from getting a Tundra dc in the springtime is the dam gas mileage! But they are now claiming 18mpg and thats pretty close to the tacomas. When I put figures together thay are pretty close and a Tundra is pretty established, except for the brakes wearing down too early. My decision changes depending on the figures that I see at the pumps every other month. Them Opec *astards. Why can't mexicans drill the *hit out of their country? Isn't their tons of oil underground down their? I'll buy their oil and I'd rather give them my money, they need it alot more!
" thats what I think"
It has both unibody and ladder frame construction which is innovative.
However it lacks alot of articulation since it isn't just IRS its a compleatly independant system all the way around.
I would call it more of a hobbist SUV than a truck. Most people could find use out of this rather than a truck. I hope more people buy it...it will make tacomas more exclusive.
unibody is not the same as uniTbody, which is what the ridgeline has. at least we should know what were talking about before we complain.
anyway, the thing is uglier than a kick in the face, but has some very very cool features, so even though i would not buy it i must admit toyota, as well as every other manufacturer could and should learn from honda.
The Ridgeline is just another fashion statement that is of limited value as a truck. Think Avalanche, Explorer Sport Track, etc. A 5ft bed is simply not acceptable in a truck.
I disagree with this statement. Before the Sport Trac, Avalanche, Crew Cab short bed this or that came out, people still put tool boxes in the front of their 6 foot bed. Thus leaving a 5 foot bed STILL capable of real life use.
I should say that I hate the Ridgeline though.. not because of what it is, but because of what it looks like. Just my .02
The real problem here is that it's being marketed as a full size truck but has nothing close to the abilities of a full size. The towing alone is max 5000lbs with no options to increase it. The Tacoma alone is 6500lbs. Even the Ford F150 the "small" full size has a better capacity than the Ridgeline. I agree with the fashion statement thing though.. it's another form of an SUV from all I'm concerned about. I have to say I like the innovations though Honda has brought to the table. The lockable under bed "trunk" is a great feature. I used to own an CRV and they had a similar design with that vehicle and it proved to be very usefull. Not much else I can see to like about it though. :-)
My .02 as well (that makes .04) :-)
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I guess I didn't explain why I say the Ridgeline is not a "real" truck. There is the unitbody issue and of course the small bed. But the biggest problem for me is the fact that it operates in front wheel drive until the front tires slip - no "real" truck can ever be front wheel drive, IMHO. I don't disagree that it probably will sell and meet some peoples needs, but to me it will never really be a truck - just an SUV with a bed. Of course is am prejudiced because I love Toyotas and I think the Ridgeline is butt ugly.
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