Any updates on v8 tacoma?

yogist12 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-03-2005, 10:46 PM

can anyone speculate on the possibility of a v8 for 07?

lelandstanford · #2 (**permalink**) 10-03-2005, 11:06 PM

@ $3.00+/gal?

X-runner · #3 (**permalink**) 10-05-2005, 09:44 PM

Never?

cole45 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 12:05 AM

How about a diesel toyota Tundra or Tacoma?

yogist12 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 01:26 AM

what changes do you think we will see in 07? hp increase possibly? styling update?

tbrown78 · #6 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by yogist12

what changes do you think we will see in 07? hp increase possibly? styling update?

Probably not much. Maybe in year 4 or 5 you'll see some minor changes, but nothing major. Toyota's not known for major change unless their talking new models. The 4runner just got refreshed but that's after a 4 year run.

Plow78 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cole45

How about a diesel toyota Tundra or Tacoma?

I thought i remember reading somewhere that there is a V8 Diesel comming out for the tacoma in 07

TacomaOffRoadGrl · #8 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 09:16 AM

Didn't I read somewhere that Toyota plans to offer hybrids across their model line? Don't remember the time frame though. Maybe I'm just smokin crack!

j4x4ar3 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TacomaOffRoadGrl

Didn't I read somewhere that Toyota plans to offer hybrids across their model line? Don't remember the time frame though. Maybe I'm just smokin crack!

Definitely a topic for another thread. They (Toyota) did say that. After reading the long term tests on edmunds regarding the other Hybrids on the market I'm definitely turned off to the idea. My V6 very powerfull Tacoma gets great mileage (20mpg average). I have a tow capacity of 6500# and I "only" paid $30,000 for it. The hybrids that edmunds has been commenting about at best have maybe hit 25mpg average and their performance has been less than satisfactory. My 04 Sienna gets 23 around town and 26 hwy so why Hybrid. Unless big improvements come in hybrid technology I want a truck with a real engine in it. Not one that I have to replace the batteries in every 5 years.

TacomaOffRoadGrl · #10 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 12:01 PM

Hmmm...

Thanks for the info. Food for thought for sure. So to bring this back on topic. I think we'll see a hybrid Tacoma before a V8...that's just my opinion though based on no facts whatsoever! :-)

avandale · #11 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 02:25 PM

I read on a financial website that Ford and the other US automakers may be a world of hurt for their decisions on Truck engines. Imports like Toyota have been really focusing on MPG where Ford and especially Dodge stink.

Analyst was speculating that truck import sales could really get a boost over the next few years where the big 3 US trucks prioritized in the wrong places and were at a disadvantage. It could take them a while to re-prioritize and re-design to catch up.

You can decide for yourself how relevant this analysts thoughts are. Generally I think the point is valid. This would suggest to me a Tacoma V8 is not in anyones future.

I would have waited for a Hybrid Tacoma if I thought one was coming. I got the impression not to expect one anytime soon so I took the plunge this year.

SuperBusa · #12 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 06:01 PM

I see that Mitsubishi just introduced a new mid sized truck with a 4.7L V8 option ... the "Raider". It's kind of a dog for that sized V8 IMO ... only 230 hp and 290 ft-lbs torque with 15 city and 20 hiway MPG.

http://www.mitsucars.com/raider/index.html

The Tacoma rules !!

yogist12 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 07:35 PM

I think it is highly possible that we see a power increase in 2007 despite gas prices. I am sure that the engine is tuneable and not limited to what it is currently producing. The new Tacoma is great alternative to us tundra owners since the size is comparable,but the only downfall might be the lack of low end torque that we are used to in the tundra v8's. I would like to see a more powerful tacoma in the near future especially the X-runner unless the aftermarket decides to catch on requiring us to resort to the aftermarket,speaking of aftermarket anyone know of any tacoma related parts being introduced at sema this year?

jjackknife · #14 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBusa

I see that Mitsubishi just introduced a new mid sized truck with a 4.7L V8 option ... the "Raider". It's kind of a dog for that sized V8 IMO ... only 230 hp and 290 ft-lbs torque with 15 city and 20 hiway MPG.

http://www.mitsucars.com/raider/index.html

The Tacoma rules !!

Mitsu collaborated with Chrysler... i believe the Raider is (for all practical purposes) a Dakota

toyotadude04 · #15 (**permalink**) 10-06-2005, 10:45 PM

It's hard to say whether or not the Tacoma will inherit the V8 option like the 4Runner did. Somehow, I doubt it because the V6 has plenty of power to be competitive in its class, even with the Dakota. Its just unnecessary IMO. However, when the new BIGGER and MORE EXPENSIVE Tundra comes out, there will be more room between the two models so it could happen, ionno. However, it will not allow it to tow any more weight, just be a little faster.

And I have my doubts about the diesel option later, I don't know how much diesel is everywhere else, but its $3.43 here in NW Arkansas and reg. unleaded is only $2.89.

I think we may be dismissing the idea of a hybrid too soon. In just a few years, Toyota has evolved the "synergy drive" system from the Prius to now the Lexus 400h and the Highlander. They are figuring out how to beef up the system for heavier and heavier duty. Also, I have a subscription to Motor Trend and in the April 2005 issue, there was an article about an interview with Fujio Cho (Toyota President) about Toyota's plans for hybrids in the future. Here is an excerpt:

Toyota President Fujio Cho wants to triple hybrid production. "I can't be concrete, but it should be one million units within five years. With the right cars we can do much more." Cho says eventually each Toyota model range will have a hybrid version.

Toyota reportedly spends $6 billion per year on R & D. Fujio says, "About half of that is related to the environment, by which I mean fuel cells, hybrids, weight reduction, and so on. We attach great importance to this and will continue to spend at that level or increase it. We want to maintain leadership."

Cho acknowledges a hybrid costs more than an average car because of the battery, motor, inverter, and other equipment. But he says with improved design and manufacturing methods and increased volume, Toyota has already reduced costs significantly.

With all of that said, I still think it will be a while before every model will be a hybrid. BUT I do think a hybrid version of the Tacoma/4Runner and the Tundra/Sequoia is just around the corner. The Camry/Highlander Hybrid is already a reality (Well, whenever the Camry gets on the lots). Its just a matter of time, but I would be willing to bet the Tacoma won't get a hybrid version before 2008.

ALSO, just my .02 (and I know this is the Tacoma forum) The new Tundra IMO really needs to either be a Hybrid marvel that has loads of torque and gets 25 mpg or has some variation of "Displacement on Demand" because if it doesn't, it will ALREADY be behind the GM twins right after a redesign. I fear that it will be a normal huge gas-guzzling V8 because if you think about it, Toyota would have been developing it BEFORE gas skyrocketed past $3/gal. Imagine people cross-shopping a Chevy with DOD that gets ~22 mpg with a brand new Tundra 5.4 or 5.7 that gets a whopping 16 mpg on the hwy.

Anyway, perhaps I just rambled forever, but I thought the article was interresting and maybe I stimulated someone's thinking.

P.S. Somehow, checking this site has become one of my daily rituals and I really enjoy coming here and reading everything everyone has to say.