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Well I picked up my (new to me) 2005 Taco yesterday with 15K miles on it. Since driving it home from the dealership I have had squeeky funny feeling clutch, rear squeek noises, and this tranny problem. I am far from impressed. This is my first Toyota TRUCK (I have a 97 Camry), hope its not my last.
I took my 05 into the dealer on Wednesday to get the clutch assembly replaced. Man, it doesnt feel like a clutch anymore, well.. its a very light clutch now. No more squeak, really smooth. Its lighter than my MR2 was. Its only been a couple of days but since its been so hot I think this may be a permanent fix. I'll give it a total of a couple of weeks (about the time the original one started to squeak) before I am completely satisfied.
So, if you have the squeak, call up your dealer. To avoid the BS, just tell them you know about the TSB and you want your truck fixed. Print the darn thing out for them so they wont have any room to complain. The one I dealt with asked me how I knew about it, it supposedly was the first they heard about it. I told them Tundra Solutions... "uhh.. but you have a Tacoma.." "Well, yeah but all Toyotas are discussed in the forums.." "... oh.."
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Roger
05 Tacoma 4x4 TRD DC Off-Road
Shrockworks Front Bumper, K&N Intake/AEM Filter, XM Satellite, Retrax Tonneau Cover and Yakima track rack system, OEM roof rack
Which TSB is that and where can I find it to print it out? It does not sound like it's about the clutch chatter, but definately worth a look.
I also have not heard of any solution yet. A couple weeks ago, I was at the dealership for the 5K mile oil change, and talked to the service manager about the clutch. He did not have any news, either. While I was sitting in his office, he called the regional Toyo service manager, who apparently is now driving a Tacoma 6 speed since a couple of months ---- having the same issue. But that guy also did not have any updates.
I am not sure what to do at this point. I agree with one of the others who said it's not moisture related. It was extremely dry here for the last 5 or 6 weeks, and I have the chatter every day now. Really bad on a cold engine, and it also seems to be getting worse instead of better over time with more miles on the truck.
I have a 2006 Reg Cab 4x4 manual trans and it seems to "grab" if I try to start off too fast (like a hot rodder). I think it has hydraulic linkage so I don't see how "binding linkage" can be.
I agree with Snakeii. I also had my clutch pedal assy replaced 3 weeks ago. Feels like a new truck. Before having it replaced, sometimes when shifting, the clutch didn't feel like it was totally disengaged even though I had it pushed to the floor. Shifting between gears and down shifting never felt right. Works great now.
Which TSB is that and where can I find it to print it out? It does not sound like it's about the clutch chatter, but definately worth a look.
I also have not heard of any solution yet. A couple weeks ago, I was at the dealership for the 5K mile oil change, and talked to the service manager about the clutch. He did not have any news, either. While I was sitting in his office, he called the regional Toyo service manager, who apparently is now driving a Tacoma 6 speed since a couple of months ---- having the same issue. But that guy also did not have any updates.
I am not sure what to do at this point. I agree with one of the others who said it's not moisture related. It was extremely dry here for the last 5 or 6 weeks, and I have the chatter every day now. Really bad on a cold engine, and it also seems to be getting worse instead of better over time with more miles on the truck.
Very annoying! But thanks for any replies!
I have an '05 Tacoma V6, 6-speed manual that has had really bad clutch chatter since a few weeks after I bought it. Toyota has replaced the clutch assembly once, but the problem persists. They now claim it is normal operation. From your post, it seems you have a similar problem with your vehicle? I have been dealing with the California New Motor Vehicle Board mediation services trying to reach a solution and Toyota is adamant that this is a problem isolated to my driving abilities (or lack thereof as they claim). Can you elaborate a bit on your experience with this, or direct me to another post where the problem is described. Any other cases of the same problem that I can find will be helpful with the mediation.
I'm new here and haven't yet investigated the whole site, so I apologize if I'm being an annoyance by asking this question...
I just found the beginning of the thread and read some of the details of the clutch problems...no need to respond to my previous post.
I haven't found any persistent pattern to my clutch chatter problem. It is generally evident after it has sat a few days, but not always. It seems to come and go randomly, but when it does occur, it is extremely violent. I now have about 9,400 miles on the truck and the problem continues to get worse. Toyota still has not "been able to satisfactorily demonstrate any abnormal clutch judder/chatter" and doesn't seem interested in helping. Does anybody have any ideas of how I might be able to demonstrate this to them?
Jayman, what you are describing is pretty much what I am experiencing, with the difference that in my truck, the chatter covers the whole spectrum. Sometimes almost non existent, other times very little, then suddenly the whole truck shakes and vibrates.
My dealer has acknowledged the problem, but has no solution.
stevegittings, actually there proabably isn't any difference...my truck's chatter is sometimes non-existent, sometimes very light, sometimes moderate, but recently tending most of the time toward severe...
Have you raised the issue with the Toyota Customer Experience center? Or have you only dealt with dealers? Perhaps if enough of us complain at a higher level, they might come up with a fix.
Does anybody have any ideas of how I might be able to demonstrate this to them?
Perhaps park it right outside their showroom window. Go out and start it up and then have it start jerking around and drive right through their window.. maybe that'll wake them up...
Seriously though, with the many posts here on this board, and I'm sure theres another boards talking about it (like CustomTacos, etc) they should be well aware of the problem. Sometimes it takes a fire under their butts to get them motivated. Lemon law comes to mind, along with BBB, calling Toyota headquarters, etc.
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Roger
05 Tacoma 4x4 TRD DC Off-Road
Shrockworks Front Bumper, K&N Intake/AEM Filter, XM Satellite, Retrax Tonneau Cover and Yakima track rack system, OEM roof rack
Hello everybody, new here, reading about your problems. I have a 05 sport 4x4 dc with 44,000 miles. Yeah I do a lot of driving. I've had the same promlem on and off since day one and dealer said it was normal. Finally last week it was doing it all the time, I got tired of the dealer when I brought it in again and told me I needed a new clutch so I brought it to a local trans guy who has done worked on other trucks for me in the past. He told me all clutch components had to be ordered from the dealer no aftermarket parts yet. He also said the dealer recommends changing the clutch fork. Sounds kinda fishy. Never had to see a clutch fork changed when replacing clutch. All other manuals I drove lasted over 100,000 on original clutch. Once items come in I'm going to compare the clutch forks.
This is the first I've heard of a new fork. It makes some sense to me though considering that the only possible way to get severe clutch judder is by some mechanical misalignment (i.e. the fork, pressure plate, spring, etc.). I'm interested to know if the new fork looks any different than the old one...please post your findings. Also, wearable item or not, at 44,000 miles a new clutch should be covered under the original powertrain warranty especially if you've had the problem from day one. Don't pay for it yourself...it won't fix the problem (had mine replaced at 6500 miles and still have the judder). But the new fork idea, there might be something to that...if the old one had a problem in the first place.
sleddog, thanks for the update. Can you post some more details? How much did you pay to have this done? And was this an aftermarket part? Did it look any different then the original one? Did Toyota come up with a new clutch fork design?
Heres an update, I had a reputable trans shop replace the clutch but all parts had to come from Toyota, when he called to place the order for the new clutch they ( Toyota) recommended replacing the clutch fork to a new updated one , unfortunately I wasn't around when they installed it but kept all the old parts. I have put about a 1,000 miles on now and still no problems the whole job cost a whopping 1,600 dollars the parts themselves were almost 800. To bad no aftermarket parts yet otherwise I could have gotten a better clutch than stock for 1/3 the price. But since its a daily driver and I make my living with it I had to get it done. I hope this helps others.