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Old 07-11-2002, 11:19 AM
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Question 15k Checkup

My wife just got off the phone with the service dept. at Sport City Toyota in Dallas. She called to schedule the 15K Service on her Tundra. They quoted her a price of about $450.00. Maybe I'm way behind the times, but this sounds like a rip-off to me. I'd really appreciate any advice on this issue. What's included in this service that they're wanting to charge $450.00 for it? (I don't have the owner manual with me.) Is this reasonable? If not, please recommend a dealership where I can get it for a fair price in Dallas. Thanks in advance!

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Every dealership has their own list of items for each service level. My local dealership's has the following for 15K

Replace Engine Oil
Replace Engine Oil filter
Adjust Tire Pressure to Factory Specifications
Top off all Fluids
Adjust Engine Drive Belts as Necessary
Inspect Front and Rear Brake Pads
Silicone C-V Boots
Inspect Steering Operation/Rack/Tie Rod Ends
Inspect Parking Brake
Adjust clutch (if applicable)
Rotate Tires Front to Back
Inspect Exhaust Heat Shields
Torque Wheel Lugs to Specs
Inspect Cooling System/Hoses/Connections
Balance Wheels Going on Front
Lube All Hinges and Locks
Inspect Spark Plugs
Replace Air Filter
Clean Throttle Body
Inspect Idle and CO
Road Test and Evaluate
Provide Written Toyota Quality Inspection Report
Inspect Tire Wear (Alignment Additional) (Advise)
Replace PCV Valve if Required

All for about $221.

Actually all that is needed is:
Oil/Filter Change
Lube & retorque Propeller Shaft (4WD)
Rotate Tires
Inspect Air Filter/Replace if needed.

Additional Maintenance Items for Special Operating Conditions:

Replace automatic transmission fluid
Replace front differential oil (4WD)
Replace rear differential oil (4WD)
Replace transfer case oil (4WD)
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Im just about due for my 30k myself and grabbed this off the service desk.
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I stuck a lil tag after some of these. You don't need to pay 500, or even 300 bucks for this stuff. If you can find a good (! -- shop around) 4x4 shop in your area, licensed and certified to perform work on Toyota vehicles, take it there for the prelim check, it'll cost you maybe 60 bucks...more at bottom...

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Every dealership has their own list of items for each service level. My local dealership's has the following for 15K

Replace Engine Oil ***this should be done anyway, unless you're running synth fluids or AMSoil
Replace Engine Oil filter ***this goes with the oil
Adjust Tire Pressure to Factory Specifications ***buy a gauge for 5 bucks and do this yourself
Top off all Fluids ***Read DJ (or was it CJ) 's note regarding topping off the brake fluid (don't do it, it provides pad wear information...and if it's really low and the pads are new, you're probably leaking fluid)
Adjust Engine Drive Belts as Necessary ***not at 15K, unless you're hearing/seeing trouble, the serpentine is recommended as a replacement item at 60K and there's a guy here running his original at 97K
Inspect Front and Rear Brake Pads ***at 15K, if your pads are low, you need to learn how to use dem brakes . you don't need to worry about this until 30K unless you drive like a nut.
Silicone C-V Boots ***??...your CV boots should be fine unless you're lifted. Otherwise, poke around the threads on suspension/handling/etc. for how to check your CV boots.
Inspect Steering Operation/Rack/Tie Rod Ends ***this is definately dealer or certified mechanic territory, unless you know exactly what you're doing.
Inspect Parking Brake ***easier for mechanic to do this
Adjust clutch (if applicable) ***again, mechanic
Rotate Tires Front to Back ***your tire shop (or wherever) usually provides this free
Inspect Exhaust Heat Shields ***they need to look at the exhaust manifolds. that's what breaks most often.
Torque Wheel Lugs to Specs ***buy torque wrench, DIY, or run the risk of mr torque dork ignoring this and cranking them on with an impact wrench.
Inspect Cooling System/Hoses/Connections ***i bet they'll miss that kinked hose...it's a recent thread, too. in general, this is better for a mech as well, they know better what they're looking at.
Balance Wheels Going on Front ***at 15K, this is unnecessary unless youre getting vibrations, in which case it's probably warranty.
Lube All Hinges and Locks ***get oil can...prevent tin woodsman disease...keep wallet heavy...
Inspect Spark Plugs ***at 15K?? give me a break. You could really do this yourself if you really want to. Check the right hand forward plug.
Replace Air Filter ***DIY. Takes literally about 10 seconds.
Clean Throttle Body ***have them do it if you're not mechanically inclined or do not have proper tools, area, and safety equipment. involves volatile spray solvents and some disassembly.
Inspect Idle and CO ***too bad you can't do this yourself without spending an arm and a leg, but if it idles rough, you'll notice...and on a tundra, it's rare if this is necessary. if they want to charge for this, wait til 30k.
Road Test and Evaluate ***you should be doing this every day
Provide Written Toyota Quality Inspection Report ***and taking notes if necessary , i keep mine in a 3-ring binder with all the shop printouts and receipts i ever get
Inspect Tire Wear (Alignment Additional) (Advise) ***for the tire shop, and your inspection when you wash your baby.
Replace PCV Valve if Required ***not for you. let a mech do it if it needs to be done (unlikely)

All for about $221.

Actually all that is needed is:
Oil/Filter Change ***ew...don't diy unless you know what youre about, and please dispose properly!
Lube & retorque Propeller Shaft (4WD) ***the best part about TS is it includes instructions to DIY for this
Rotate Tires
Inspect Air Filter/Replace if needed.

Additional Maintenance Items for Special Operating Conditions:

Replace automatic transmission fluid
Replace front differential oil (4WD)
Replace rear differential oil (4WD)
Replace transfer case oil (4WD)
...all the tranny, diff and t-case fluids are actually a good idea to flush and change this early. they may have manufacturing residue or contaminants, and flushing them now will alert you to anything that may not have been 100% perfect when it was all put together. it's also a good time to switch to synth fluid in the tranny and t-case.

all in all, there really isn't much to worry about at 15K unless you're paranoid. most of this stuff needs to be done at 30K, like spark plugs, throttle body and whatnot. most of the rest, hopefully you take a look once every week or two, or you take notice when youre driving. granted i crank my stereo (bone stock...sounds great!), but i keep it off when i'm starting, turning off, and keep an ear open in traffic now and then (read: couple times a day) for how the engine sounds and the truck feels.

The 60 dollar checkup means they check fluids, brakes, air filter, idle, codes, and a million other tiny things that indicate when service actually needs to be done, rather than doing service regardless of necessity because it brings 450 bucks to the shop.

Save yo' dough for some mods !

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Call out for DFW Texas Tundras Members for an area Dealership --- Thanks!

Hell I did all mine and just kept the receipts to prove that I purchased what was needed for the maintance. This was okayed by my Dealership here in Houston. They have the date, product, etc. for the record.

But if you feel uncomfortable doing it yourself I would suggest what DeepStealth posted.

Save the cash!

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THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR INPUT! I surveyed several of the local dealers, had them fax over their check sheets for the 15K service with the price lists. The spousal unit decided on Metroplex Toyota in Duncanville. They opened at 7:00 am on Saturday and we were waiting for them then. We had everything needed (plus some) done for about $170. Picked up the truck at 9:00am. It was a MAJOR SAVINGS over Sport City. Paul M.
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