BFG All-Terrain T/A KO VS. Michelin LTX AT2

[Blaqk Tundra 67]

Ok guys, ive been up and down tire rack and I'm going crazy.

the LTX AT2 Has higher ratings, yet its a newer tire so it dosent have as many reviews as the KO.

I have seen the T/A KO on alot of your rides...

Ive always been partial to michelins due to their tread life, this AT2 is the most aggressive looking one i could find from them and from what i hear its not that aggressive looking while the KO looks alot beefier...

which tire do you think will last longest, bear in mind i dont do much off roading but i like to have traction eberrrrywhere i go.

so please lets hear it.

[Oskar_Z28]

Here is my take on this. I've had BFGs on my previous truck, and loved the tires. I would prefer them on the Tundra over Michelins because of the looks of the tire. But at +$50 more per tire it wasn't worth it to me. I ended up getting Michelins A/T 2 few days ago. I can't comment on longevity or performance of these tires however. One thing is that they are about as "noisy" as BFGs (which were pretty quiet for A/T tires and thats a plus). The reason I got Michelins is because of good deal I got and good wet weather reviews that I found on them. I don't care about snow traction.

[Blaqk Tundra 67]

Originally Posted by Oskar_Z28

Here is my take on this. I've had BFGs on my previous truck, and loved the tires. I would prefer them on the Tundra over Michelins because of the looks of the tire. But at +$50 more per tire it wasn't worth it to me. I ended up getting Michelins A/T 2 few days ago. I can't comment on longevity or performance of these tires however. One thing is that they are about as "noisy" as BFGs (which were pretty quiet for A/T tires and thats a plus). The reason I got Michelins is because of good deal I got and good wet weather reviews that I found on them. I don't care about snow traction.

how many miles did you get out of your bfgs on the last truck?

and for an all around tire snow, wet, etc which would you prefer?

[LilCuteSurferGrl]

hands down, the bfgs will last longer. working in a tire center for 3 years, dealing with strictly michelin and bfg only... i would definitely say the bfgs will. what you have to understand is that the ltx a/t2 is designed to be a passenger tire, give you a quiet/comfort ride but an aggressive look, which means its a softer rubber compound, which in turn wears out quicker. i've gone through 3 sets of all-terrains on 3 different vehicles already, all the sets got at least 70k... one set 82k. the bfgs are not made to be a passenger tire for a comfort ride. they're made to stand up to their name, so they're made of a harder rubber and one of the only tires with a "tri-wall".

[Oskar_Z28]

BFGs lasted until I sold the truck and probably had more than 1/2 tread on there at 30k mi (they were on '95 F150). Great wet weather tire, I don't know about snow (I haven't seen the white stuff since I moved south). I will check wet weather performance of the Michelin once Gustav comes here . I'll post up about it next time it rains here.


Essentially as it was pointed out, the A/T 2 will give you the look of A/T tire with the performance of a passanger tire. That is perfectly fine for me because I do mostly highway driving / city streets, with occasional dirt roads / grass. I never go any serious offroading.

[Oskar_Z28]

Update:

So far I have about 600 miles on them, and they have been good. Wet weather traction (which was one of the most important aspects for me) is good. I drove through a downpour over the weekend without any problems. On the dirt / gravel road they seemed fine, but I never really had problems with any tires on dry gravel, so can't comment here. On dry pavement they ride pretty smooth and are not noisy, so that is good. The tire carcass is quite a bit stiffer than Grandteks that were there originally, so the ride is slightly more bumpy, but not too bad. For $150 each they are good.

I have 1 problem though, they seem to vibrate at 70 mph, but that is most likely due to balance. I need to take the truck back to ensure they balanced the wheels right (I am very picky on how well the tires are balanced, and will keep taking them back until I am happy).

[Ryone]

Originally Posted by LilCuteSurferGrl

hands down, the bfgs will last longer. working in a tire center for 3 years, dealing with strictly michelin and bfg only... i would definitely say the bfgs will. what you have to understand is that the ltx a/t2 is designed to be a passenger tire, give you a quiet/comfort ride but an aggressive look, which means its a softer rubber compound, which in turn wears out quicker. i've gone through 3 sets of all-terrains on 3 different vehicles already, all the sets got at least 70k... one set 82k. the bfgs are not made to be a passenger tire for a comfort ride. they're made to stand up to their name, so they're made of a harder rubber and one of the only tires with a "tri-wall".

No offense, but... what? I've had 4 sets of BFG A/T's, including the first generation "Radial All Terrain" before they had the shoulderlock. They are very good all-around tires, but they're not great at anything. Some of the BFG's biggest values are that they have, as you said, a 3-ply sidewall, they're the best looking, and they last pretty long. I've NEVER in 12 years worth of experience with them had a single problem. But, they suck in mud, water, and they don't self-clean very well. I've never gotten more than 60k without them just becoming worthless, but I spend more time on asphalt than dirt, and 60k is pretty damn good for an AT tire. I'm not saying 70k+ miles is impossible, but improbable for your average person who travels mostly on asphalt.

Also, saying that the AT2 is a passenger tire with an aggressive look is just wrong. Both the BFG's and AT2's come in different load ratings. The load E rating on both tires is not designed for a "passenger" car. That's why they have Load range C, D, etc... You don't put a set of Load E 10-ply michelin's on a minivan.

I would also bet that the AT2's have a harder compound than the BFG's, simply because Michelin has treadlife better than just about anyone.

Originally Posted by Oskar_Z28

Update:

So far I have about 600 miles on them, and they have been good. Wet weather traction (which was one of the most important aspects for me) is good. I drove through a downpour over the weekend without any problems. On the dirt / gravel road they seemed fine, but I never really had problems with any tires on dry gravel, so can't comment here. On dry pavement they ride pretty smooth and are not noisy, so that is good. The tire carcass is quite a bit stiffer than Grandteks that were there originally, so the ride is slightly more bumpy, but not too bad. For $150 each they are good.

I have 1 problem though, they seem to vibrate at 70 mph, but that is most likely due to balance. I need to take the truck back to ensure they balanced the wheels right (I am very picky on how well the tires are balanced, and will keep taking them back until I am happy).

Oskar,

What load range did you get on your AT2's? Did you get your balance issues straightened out? Pictures

Ryan

[cleanb13]

I wanted the AT2's but not in E-load or P-rated. I'll go with the Yokohamas instead.

[Pappy John]

I went with the E-rated AT2s on my '07 Tundra, mostly for the added towing stability when running with my 34' travel trailer. When not towing I bring them down to 50 psi all around and the ride is just fine. They are wearing well and the traction in soft stuff has been excellent. No snow experience yet, but that could change by month's end.