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They were balanced recently but do they need to be balanced each time they're rotated?
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They should be fine without rebalancing.

The only time rotating tires without rebalancing is likely to be a problem is when they have been "finish balanced" on the vehicle. This is sometimes done when the brake calipers or drums are out of balance, or when the wheel rotates about a slightly different center of rotation on the wheel hub than it does on the off-the-car balancer. The Tundra and Sequoia use hub-centric alloy wheels, which mount very nicely, and their brake components seem to be balanced well, so this isn't a problem.
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Thanks DJ.
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i know that you didn't ask, but just an FYI, invest in a torque wrench if you don't already have one. i used to rotate my tires myself every time i got an oil change and i ended up busting a wheel stud off. so yeah, get a torque wrench if you don't already have one. btw, it's good that you're rotating your tires because you'll get a lot of life out of them.
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1/2" drive 3-foot torque wrench, 1/2" drive 3-foot breaker bar, cordless drill with 1/2" drive adapter, two floor jacks = rotate the tires faster than the guys at the tire dealer .

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I was just planning on tightening the lugs with the tire tool that came with it. Am I in danger of breaking something off?
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Just an FYI on the torque wrench

Next week there is the Craftsman Club week(9/7-9/13). You can get a torque wrench a)1/2" drive 20-150 ft lbs b). 3/8" drive 10-75 ft lbs or c) 3/8" drive 25-250 in. lbs, for only $49. Regurlarly, the price is $69.99. So, if you plan to invest, get one next week.

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I was just planning on tightening the lugs with the tire tool that came with it. Am I in danger of breaking something off?
Depends on how enthusiastic you get about re-tightening stuff. It's far better to use a torque wrench and get the lugs set evenly to the correct level. Otherwise, improper tightening can possibly lead to busted lugs, warped rotors, or stuff working itself loose at speed. All things you generally want to avoid!
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i agree w/ Genthar. i'd get one just to be on the safe side. even using your arms and your body weight can be enough to over (even under) torque your lug nuts. also, never stand on the lug wrench! i've busted a couple like that as well! D'OH!
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TundraGA:
If you want to just use the tire tool that Toyota furnished, you'll be okay. Unless you really go goofy with over-tightening, you're not going to break off a lugnut. And, say you DO break one---It's not the end of the world. Lug nuts are readily available, cheap and, 'tho I've never changed one on a Toyota, they shouldn't be any different than other vehicles...they're just not that hard to change out.
What you DO want to do, is to tighten them using a pattern...like the book says; and tighten then about the same amount of torque each. This prevents warping the brake discs.
By the way, some knotheads in tire stores and dealerships use an air gun. It's FAR better to just use the vehicle wrench yourself than to let anyone use an air gun. Personally, I use a torque wrench, but the method you are suggesting works just fine, too.
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I was just planning on tightening the lugs with the tire tool that came with it. Am I in danger of breaking something off?
Once you've torqued the lugs down with a wrench a couple of time you know how tight they need to be. But until then you can definitely break lugs. Seems like some of the lugs are a little more susceptible to breaking. When I got my tires rotated, they even broke a stud loosening one!

I've put WD40 on all of lugs to avoid any locking of nuts on the studs. As long as you have a wrench you should use it, but if you don't you can borrow one a couple of times and you'll know when you hit 80 lbs. Actually, I think spec. is 82 ft-lbs or something but I only do 80 myself. (Aluminum rules).

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Just an FYI on the torque wrench

Next week there is the Craftsman Club week(9/7-9/13). You can get a torque wrench a)1/2" drive 20-150 ft lbs b). 3/8" drive 10-75 ft lbs or c) 3/8" drive 25-250 in. lbs, for only $49. Regurlarly, the price is $69.99. So, if you plan to invest, get one next week.

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dyogim --thanks for the info on the torque wrench, am going to start doing my own tires rotation. Discount dropped my truck off the jack, knocked a hole in my front plastic cover. They replaced the pan cover. Had my front end checked and they said it needed to be realined. Didnt press the point, just paid for it myself. Hard to say if the drop did the damage or not. Never had any problems with Discount before but this has hurt our relationship.---Buzzard
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I've put WD40 on all of lugs to avoid any locking of nuts on the studs.

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Be careful of doing that. If you lube the threads of a bolt and then tighten it to a specified torque, you've put LOTS more tension on the bolt than if the threads were dry.
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any idea by how much, and how bad this could be? i've been putting anti-sieze (or whatever's handy) on my lug nuts for a long time !

i do tighten cross-pattern, not around the hub.
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I have always used anti-seize on all bolts and tighten with the supplied lug wrench of the vehicle.

I have never had a problem with them coming loose or breaking. And if I did have to get the tire off on the side of the road I was assured I was able to remove it with that same lug wrench.

BTW...I do own my own torque wrench, but do NOT use it on lug nuts.
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