Well I finally got of the fence and got a set of Revo's put on today. LT 265 75 16 load range C. Although it is really too soon to see how they really perform I did try them out a little off road in the snow today and on some slightly icy roads. First of all if I said they rode as quiet and smooth on the highway as the factory Rugged Trails I would be lying BUT even though the ride is now a little more truck like, I still think its pretty good and the slight road noise is not that bothersome. It kind of sounds a little like regular road noise if you had a rear door slightly adjar, not that annoying type of whine that some tires make. Now for the good stuff. Off road in the snow there is NO comparison to the Rugged Trails. The Revos will pretty much go through all but the most demanding snow conditions without using four wheel drive. I spent the whole week deer hunting last week and where the Rugged Trails would have me using four wheel drive the Revos would continue in two wheel drive. Even in rough lumpy snow covered fields they would still climb over the rough snow covered molehills in two wheel drive like a tractor that would leave the Rugged Trails needing 4x4. Also another positive thing I notice is the excellent on road braking the Revo's have. I can actually feel the front end of the truck diving down slightly and really grabbing when braking on slightly slippery roads, something I have NEVER felt with the BFG tires. The ABS does not kick on a easy or as often as it did with the old tires. One thing I did notice on the highway is that the Revos seemed to wander a little more and needed correcting a little more than the stock Rugged Trails but I will experiment a little with tire pressure to see if I can improve this. I just hope they don't lower my gas mileage too much as they do seem to have a lot more friction, only time will tell. So far have not had any issues with the tire pressure sensors either, I guess I should check if they are still working I will post more details when I get a few more on an off road miles on them.
I was able to give the Revos a bit more of a snow test over the Christmas weekend. I did a bit of snow covered hill climbing with my Tundra and didn't have to shovel once. I was able to climb fairly steep hills with at least a foot or more of hard snow in places and even though the axles would start to hang up on the snow and the truck would start to spin and then stop I was always able to back up and continue again until I got to the top of the hill. With many other tires once you lose the speed and try again from a dead stop they would just spin but not the Revos, the friend that was riding with me was quite impressed as well. These tires have so much grip that even with all the power that the 4.7 VVti engine has, when you are bogged down in hard snow it has to really work to spin the tires. The Revos really do work good in snow, even when they are spinning they still seem to grab traction and you continue going.
I got the exact same tire yesterday. I wanted the P load class but all they had was C. It is a little stiffer than the P but it also has more tread. Im very happy so far. Great Highway tire. Little louder than the LTX but I did step up from 265/65 to 265/75. I only had 56,000 on the LTX and could have got 10 to 15 thousand more but why. The were showing some dry rot and I was ready for some new rubber. I understanding getting all the life out of your tires but you have to balance that with your safety also. Having a wreck because you were trying to squeeze all the miles you can out of a tire doesnt mesh with me.These things look mean! Will post pix soon. I have a 2wd and I added the TRD Biltstein coilovers which gave me close to 2" lift in the front. No rubbing at all. The truck is a little more sluggish off the line but Im ok with it. I will just add headers and plus I want to take it easy on the tranny as to get al the miles I can out of it. Unless it wants to give out before 100,000 and the warranty will take care of it.
...These tires have so much grip that even with all the power that the 4.7 VVti engine has, when you are bogged down in hard snow it has to really work to spin the tires. The Revos really do work good in snow, even when they are spinning they still seem to grab traction and you continue going.
Thank you for the great review of the Revos and snow! I hope mine get a chance to play in snow one of these days.
What size were your original tires? Were they 265/70/16 at 30.7 inches tall? vs. the new tires at LT 265/75/16 at 31.8 inches tall?
Any issues with the larger tire size?
I am getting close to needing new tires and I am thinking about moving from the 265/65/17 at 30.5 inches tall to the 265/70/17 at 31.7 inches tall. I have a 2003 limited access cab.
My original tires were the factory BFG Rugged trails in P265 70 16 with 30.5 inch height. The LT 265 75 16 Revos have a 31.8 inch height. I don't have any clearance problems with them rubbing on anything yet. I checked my speed with my GPS and the 75 series Revos increase my speed about 3 MPH over what is indicated on the speedo at 60 MPH. The only slight disadvantage I notice so far is even though the 75 series Revo is only 1.3 inches taller than the 70 series BFG tire I do notice that acceleration is not quite a snappy as before due to the slightly taller gearing caused by the taller tire. The truck still goes pretty good but I did notice a bit of a difference. This also might be due in part to the Revo being a lot heavier than the BFGs therefore having more weight to turn as well. I did a mileage check and seem to be getting about 1 MPG less than I got with the BFGs but the weather is colder now as well so that may account for the slight loss. Up here in Manitoba, Canada we have snow and ice for 5 to 6 months of the year and winter tire performance is the utmost importance to me and I am an avid hunter and fisherman. So far I am quite happy with the winter performance of the Bridgstone Revos, they kind of make me feel like I am driving a "monster" truck
Remember to compare apples to apples. When you got rid of your Rugged trails they weren't 30.5 inches. They were actually under 30 inches due to tread loss. So you're jumping from under 30 inches to 31.8 rather then slightly under 30 inches back to 30.5. But you'll still feel the loss, it's just not as great as you perceived.
Alan
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My original tires were the factory BFG Rugged trails in P265 70 16 with 30.5 inch height. The LT 265 75 16 Revos have a 31.8 inch height. I don't have any clearance problems with them rubbing on anything yet. I checked my speed with my GPS and the 75 series Revos increase my speed about 3 MPH over what is indicated on the speedo at 60 MPH. The only slight disadvantage I notice so far is even though the 75 series Revo is only 1.3 inches taller than the 70 series BFG tire I do notice that acceleration is not quite a snappy as before due to the slightly taller gearing caused by the taller tire. The truck still goes pretty good but I did notice a bit of a difference. This also might be due in part to the Revo being a lot heavier than the BFGs therefore having more weight to turn as well. I did a mileage check and seem to be getting about 1 MPG less than I got with the BFGs but the weather is colder now as well so that may account for the slight loss. Up here in Manitoba, Canada we have snow and ice for 5 to 6 months of the year and winter tire performance is the utmost importance to me and I am an avid hunter and fisherman. So far I am quite happy with the winter performance of the Bridgstone Revos, they kind of make me feel like I am driving a "monster" truck
I did a mileage check and seem to be getting about 1 MPG less than I got with the BFGs but the weather is colder now as well so that may account for the slight loss.
Diego,
Thanks for the additional info.
You need to consider that your odometer does not know about the added height and circumference. Your odometer will be low by 3.4 % witch translates to traveling 62 mph and spedo reading 60 or adding 0.5 mpg at 15 mpg. (15 mpg x 1.034 = 15.51 mpg).
I have a really hard time believe that Miata thing. When I went from a stock 30 to 33 on my tacoma I tested the speedo by driving exactly 60mph next to a stock truck and I was only off 2mph. According to that Miata thing all of us going to a 285 tire from stock are going to be off nearly 12mph. Doubtful.
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I have a really hard time believe that Miata thing. When I went from a stock 30 to 33 on my tacoma I tested the speedo by driving exactly 60mph next to a stock truck and I was only off 2mph. According to that Miata thing all of us going to a 285 tire from stock are going to be off nearly 12mph. Doubtful.
When I went to 285/75's(33") I calculated that every 93miles was actually 100miles. So at typical highway speeds, I figure I'm off about 4mph which is no big deal. Some here say our speedo's are a little offset at factory, so that we actually get a closer reading with a slightly taller tire. I can say I hit one of those radar's that shows your speed, and at 30mph my Seq. with 265/75R16 was right on(stock was 265/70R16)
OK, so I have 5k miles on my 265/75 Revo's which I put on my Seq. Just went to Yosemite and had some rain and snow to test these things in. I can say I am very confident driving with these. Coming home we hit severe rain and I could do 75mph no problem with hydroplaining. And at Yosemite we hit 'blizzard' conditions near Badger Pass, I absolutely did NOT need chains except for the fact the rangers were checking. These tires have great traction.
Now for the bad. The larger size does give a noticeable decrease in acceleration, you can especially feel it in the mountains. And they wear. I took mine to have it aligned a second time, this time they hit DJ's specs. right on. But the fronts still have noticeable outer edge wear(the little nubs are worn off, but on the back they are still there). The guy doing the alignment had worked at Bridgestone for years and said NOT to expect 50k miles out of these Revo's. We'll see......
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The guy doing the alignment had worked at Bridgestone for years and said NOT to expect 50k miles out of these Revo's. We'll see......
I'm not even close to burning through mine but I'd have to agree. I don't see how you can get this kind of traction and 50,000 miles. It might be possible now, but it's never happened in the past. The rubber is too soft to last that long. But the traction is great!!! But if they get to 40k I'll be happy and even if they come a little short of that I'll still be happy. You can't put a price on great traction.
Actually akauth I am comparing apples to apples, my truck is a 2005 and the Rugged trails were pretty much brand new with only 4000 kms when I changed them so they were indeed the actual 30.5 dia. specified also when I was doing my mileage calculations I did account for the odometer error and added 3% to my distance traveled.
Nope, I'd have to agree with you. Most people when they make the jump to larger tires usually do it when the old ones have worn out and don't account for the change in diameter from tread loss. For example, by the time 75 series tires are worn out they won't be much worse than new tires in the 70 series. 'Course, by then it's time to get a new set again.
Alan
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Originally Posted by Diego
Actually akauth I am comparing apples to apples, my truck is a 2005 and the Rugged trails were pretty much brand new with only 4000 kms when I changed them so they were indeed the actual 30.5 dia. specified also when I was doing my mileage calculations I did account for the odometer error and added 3% to my distance traveled.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. The LT Revo has almost 1/2 inch of tread and as they wear they will get closer to the original size of the Rugged Trails. Our winters are quite long here and I wasn't too happy with the Rugged Trails so I figured whats the sense of sliding around all winter with my new Tundra and take the chance of getting into a wreck. The tire shop gave me a pretty good price and took the BFGs on trade so I got a decent deal on the Revos.
Got my new Revos today!
Off road in the snow there is NO comparison to the Rugged Trails. The Revos will pretty much go through all but the most demanding snow conditions without using four wheel drive. I spent the whole week deer hunting last week and where the Rugged Trails would have me using four wheel drive the Revos would continue in two wheel drive. Even in rough lumpy snow covered fields they would still climb over the rough snow covered molehills in two wheel drive like a tractor that would leave the Rugged Trails needing 4x4. Also another positive thing I notice is the excellent on road braking the Revo's have. I can actually feel the front end of the truck diving down slightly and really grabbing when braking on slightly slippery roads, something I have NEVER felt with the BFG tires. The ABS does not kick on a easy or as often as it did with the old tires. One thing I did notice on the highway is that the Revos seemed to wander a little more and needed correcting a little more than the stock Rugged Trails but I will experiment a little with tire pressure to see if I can improve this. I just hope they don't lower my gas mileage too much as they do seem to have a lot more friction, only time will tell. So far have not had any issues with the tire pressure sensors either, I guess I should check if they are still working 
I will post more details when I get a few more on an off road miles on them. 
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