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This is a discussion thread titled "Best Value in AT?", within the Tires and Wheels forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
From a safetly standpoint, when it comes time to stop in the rain, on ice, or on snow (on a road) the Revo's will smoke the BFG's every time......
Unless you're really into off-roading a lot, the Revo is a much safer, smoother/softer riding, and quieter tire for road use with little compromise.
If you're more of a "fire trail" offroader, the Revo's are more than adequate.
Alan
Where are you getting your information? If it's just your experience with the REVO's AFTER having the BFG's, then say that.
The BFG has been around for a long time, has a 3-ply sidewall, and is a high quality tire. I've been hearing a lot of reports from the original REVO worshippers on how bad tread life is, and how the tires are now making a lot of noise.
Ryan
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Where are you getting your information? If it's just your experience with the REVO's AFTER having the BFG's, then say that.
The BFG has been around for a long time, has a 3-ply sidewall, and is a high quality tire. I've been hearing a lot of reports from the original REVO worshippers on how bad tread life is, and how the tires are now making a lot of noise.
Ryan
I've had both though I do have to say that I haven't driven on BFG's in the past year. So if they've modified the rubber compound in the past year they might have gained some ground.
The best comparison that I can give between the two is that it's like driving a Tundra vs a Dodge pickup. One is just more refined.
My tread life is going to be fine, but I only use mine for during the winter because there isn't another AT tire (which is better than *any* m&s in 1 foot or more of "thick" snow - which I see quite often) which give me the rain and ice traction of a m&s.
I could see where Revos could suffer in tread life. I think the traction you get has to come at some cost. I know they rate it at 50k, but I'll believe that when I see it. I don't think it can last that long and have the traction it does.
Revos don't get "noisy" but they do get noiser as the tire wears. Most tires do the same thing. It's probably more noticeable on the Revos though because they start out pretty quiet for a m&s tire - which they're not - and they do get up more toward an AT tire toward the end. They are an AT tire so they've a right to be noisier (sort of).
Even if they don't get the tread life, I'd still use them over a set of BFGs because a) they're quieter and b) I prefer stopping in rain vs being able to start in offroad mud or absorb a shock to the sidewall. (And in pretty thick mud even the BFGs really aren't that hot once the tread gets filled. So you've got to keep the tires moving pretty good to clear the lugs - which loads the side of your vehicle.)
BFG are *great* tires if you're a forest ranger. Unless want to go to mud tread tires (which have even worse road traction) they're probably the premier tire for that kind of application. Or if you spend 40% or more of your time offroad.
Since most people are more road oriented - the Bridgestone's are going to be better suited to them. If you've been a BFG user and you become a Revo user you're probably not going to go back. It's kind of like when you start to drive a luxury car. You appreciate your vehicle all over again when you travel and have to rent a "regular" car.
As a side note: It's on ice that the BFG's really get to be kind of dangerous - even if you sipe the tires. Revo's are more like m&s tires on ice and ditto in the rain. It's on ice that AT tires usually really suck. The only thing being worse is a mud tread tire.
There is a reason that Revo owner's rave about their tires. I find it amazing that Michelin didn't come out with them instead.
I got a set of Firestone Destination AT's 265/70-16 from TireRack.com for $400 installed on ASA TRS alloys (another $500). They've been great on the road and good in the snow.
However, I will still be putting winter tires on for the Vermont winter. ATs don't do well on ice or deep snow.
I will cast a second vote for the Destination ATs. I just installed my second set. The first set gave me 65K miles of flawless service...right up to the end.
They are great on dry pavement, channel water very well in the rain, move slush out of the way for great grip, and provide great traction in up to 8" of snow (I've never had them in anything deeper). I can't say if they will do in better, because that is the most snow I have ever driven in with them. I have yet to find an on- or off-road condition where they didn't prove to be worth of the challenge.
revo this revo that.... GY silent armor this and that... both highly overated and way over priced. There are many more compartable tires for less. Nitto/toyo, Firestone, BFG come to mind. Of the tires that the OP listed I would go with BFG hands down!
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2006 DC SR5
Bilstein 5100s F&R
Wheelers 1.5" AAL
265 Nittos on OEM Alloys
Flowmaster Delta 40
LUND Genesis Tri-Fold Tonneau
Lil Boom under the seat compliments of RF
Nothing too fancy, just better than stock!
Just bought some 265/70-17 General Grabber AT2's for my brother in laws 01 Tundra. Tire has received great reviews, looks good and at $116 per tire delivered, a steal! Once I have them mounted, along with the lift I am installing, I will follow up.
Get the BFG. There a really good all around tire. I havent driven them is snow or ice though. They do have a snow flake on them giving them a snow rating. I wish i had some snow and big field to test them out in though
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285/65/18's with BF Goodrich All Terrain KO's
BedRug, Undercover, Bed Extender, Husky Liners
I voted other. if your looking for best value i would certainly shop around. you would be surprised how much rates change from shop to shop.
I am generally a hugh BFG fan, but this time i wanted to try somthing different and more cost affective. I went with the Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor. i paid 151 per tire. the best price i could find on the BFG all terraine was about 170. now i know yo can internet shop. i did that last time for my BFG 33" mud's for my 89 yota. got a good price but i had a hard time finding someone to install them. nobody wanted to accept the responsibility of putting them on when not purchased through the store.
bottom line. 80 dollar differance is a good saving when you consider mounting and balancing and then if you want a front end alignment. so far my GY's have performed very well this winter. i would reccomend them to anyone.
Just bought some 265/70-17 General Grabber AT2's for my brother in laws 01 Tundra. Tire has received great reviews, looks good and at $116 per tire delivered, a steal! Once I have them mounted, along with the lift I am installing, I will follow up.
I like the looks of this tire so I am awaiting your report. They are a pretty heavy tire so include the affect on mpg's. I also read they are difficult to balance. Pics would be a nice touch. I'm right at 30k on my oem's and am leaning toward the F-stone Dest. AT's. I have not read anything negative on them.
Dunno if anybody who originally posted is still around, but it would be interesting to hear a long-term report on a few of those tires...say, at 20K-40K miles.
Just bought some 265/70-17 General Grabber AT2's for my brother in laws 01 Tundra. Tire has received great reviews, looks good and at $116 per tire delivered, a steal! Once I have them mounted, along with the lift I am installing, I will follow up.
A few thoughts after mounting and a few hundred miles. Tires are big for their size...265/70-17's are basically the same size as my Goodyear Wrangler 275/70-17's on my 06 DC. Tires balanced out well but have a little more road noise than the Wranglers. Good looks and agressive tread pattern for sure. One drawback...Make sure to have your alignment done before mounting tires because the Grabbers have a rim saver bead that prevented the alignment hardware from being mounted to the rim. Had to put the old tires/rims on to get the alignment, pita for sure. Still, $116 each delivered is hard to argue with.
LOL Why is NO one saying anything about the stock Dunlops!?!?!?! Maybe because they SUCK!!!!
I've got 24,000 miles on my 2005 DC and I need new tires in the fall of this year. The Edges are gone on all four tires... They really suck.
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Ditto what John Boy said. The stock Dunlops on my 2000 Tundra were the one giant disappointment of buying the thing. They squealed in the dry and hydroplaned in the wet, and in snow I did the first accidental 360 I've done since I was a teenager (well, OK, that last part might have been me being stupid .
I'm a cheapskate, so I was thrilled when 40K rolled around and I could finally justify (to myself) buying new tires. Should've dumped them sooner anyway.
My stock Dunlops are just about to hit hit 15K and the shoulders are already trashed. Of course, I bought this '04 Stepside used and there's no telling what the previous owner did to them. I've noticed the dry squealing and an uncertainty of track with them, and went out today to find one of them dead flat with no apparent sign of puncture, even after inflation and dousing with soapy water (insert international signal for frustration here). Not being a one to suffer to save $, I'm headed to my buddy's Firestone this week for a set of Destination A/Ts in 265/65R17. Hopefully I'll get a good 50K plus out of them.
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