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This is a discussion thread titled "Passenger Tires on Tundra?", within the Tires and Wheels forum, part of the Technical & Vehicle Assistance Forums category.
I drive almost all highway with my Tundra. The only time I go off road is when I'm hauling firewood (for loading and delivering). I'm looking to get the optimal ride, handling, and gas mileage out of my truck. Aggressive tread is not necessary for me. Since I rarely go off road, can passenger tires be successfully used on a Tundra? Has anyone tried them? Opinions?
I drive almost all highway with my Tundra. The only time I go off road is when I'm hauling firewood (for loading and delivering). I'm looking to get the optimal ride, handling, and gas mileage out of my truck. Aggressive tread is not necessary for me. Since I rarely go off road, can passenger tires be successfully used on a Tundra? Has anyone tried them? Opinions?
Michelin LTX M/S radials will deliver what you seek.
Finding a true passenger car tire in the correct size will be tough.
Michelin LTX M/S radials will deliver what you seek.
Finding a true passenger car tire in the correct size will be tough.
You are right, finding the correct side in a true passenger is difficult. They all seem to be too small.
I did find an all season in a bigger size vs. all terrain. Hankook makes both but I don't know much about the quality of that tire. The all season appears to have less aggressive tread than the all terrain in the Hankook.
Has anyone tried an all season instead of an all terrain? Any recommendations?
If you have the "stock" BF Goodrich Rugged Trials on your Tundra, you've already GOT passenger tires on it. They're rated as Pmetric tires (i.e. Passenger tires).
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If you have the "stock" BF Goodrich Rugged Trials on your Tundra, you've already GOT passenger tires on it. They're rated as Pmetric tires (i.e. Passenger tires).
Really? I did not know that. The tread seems aggressive to me and the fact that they seem noisey on the road and they pick up stones and other debris so easily. I really thought they were considered more of an off-road all terrain than an all season highway tire. Thanks for the info!
You are right, finding the correct side in a true passenger is difficult. They all seem to be too small.
I did find an all season in a bigger size vs. all terrain. Hankook makes both but I don't know much about the quality of that tire. The all season appears to have less aggressive tread than the all terrain in the Hankook.
Has anyone tried an all season instead of an all terrain? Any recommendations?
I bought Cooper Discovery ATR's which is a all season 50k tire very quiet on the road because I don't go off road but I do haul some heavy loads.
Link: http://www.coopertires.com/us/en/ltTruckSegment.asp
Kevin
Really? I did not know that. The tread seems aggressive to me and the fact that they seem noisey on the road and they pick up stones and other debris so easily. I really thought they were considered more of an off-road all terrain than an all season highway tire. Thanks for the info!
They are an "all terrain" tire, but Dave's point was that they are "passenger (P)" rated, not "light truck (LT)" rated.
Factory tires are passenger tires. (P). I know that they do this for a nicer ride but man do they suck for towing. I can not wait to get rid of these.
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Is it correct to say that a "P" rated tire will generally give our Tundra's a better ride, handling, and gas mileage over a "LT" rated tire?
I may be wrong but It depends on how you want your truck to ride. I do not want my truck to be like a car. To soft. But if you want a smooth car like ride then yes. I would not recomend towing to much weight with a "P" tire because the sidewalls are to soft. I think a LT would be better in "Handling" because they have a stiffer sidewall and will not roll the sidewall as easy on curves. MPG is a coin toss.
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You must be reading my mind! The next question I was going to ask was what are the differences between "P" and "LT" tires and which one do we need to use on the Tundra? Nice article! I did look at the doorjamb of my Tundra. It is a 4x4, w/TRD pkg. and came with 265/70-16's stock. There is no "LT" designation listed for the tires to be used on my truck. That's answers my question in terms of which tire to get for my truck in the near future.
Is it correct to say that a "P" rated tire will generally give our Tundra's a better ride, handling, and gas mileage over a "LT" rated tire?
I've never had LT rated tires on my Tundra and it's my first big truck, so I have no direct experience with them to make a comparison. I like my P rated Michelins, and I've towed 6000+ pounds of trailer 500+ miles at a time. When I did, I wanted more torque -- the tires were irrelevant, and they did just fine.
That being said, P rated tires will give it a softer ride, but harder LT rated tires will give it better gas mileage. As to which gives you "better handling", that depends on what kind of driving you do. Softer P rated tires will stay planted on the road better (they promote higher adhesion utilization), but the softer sidewalls will promote more sway. Harder LT rated tires will chatter more on washboard and dirt roads, but they will sway less, provided they stay planted on the road.
Methinks that, if it really matters, then your driving needs softening. But, what do I know?
I've never had LT rated tires on my Tundra and it's my first big truck, so I have no direct experience with them to make a comparison. I like my P rated Michelins, and I've towed 6000+ pounds of trailer 500+ miles at a time. When I did, I wanted more torque -- the tires were irrelevant, and they did just fine.
That being said, P rated tires will give it a softer ride, but harder LT rated tires will give it better gas mileage. As to which gives you "better handling", that depends on what kind of driving you do. Softer P rated tires will stay planted on the road better (they promote higher adhesion utilization), but the softer sidewalls will promote more sway. Harder LT rated tires will chatter more on washboard and dirt roads, but they will sway less, provided they stay planted on the road.
Methinks that, if it really matters, then your driving needs softening. But, what do I know?
I am no tire expert but in response to your comment in bold above, the article provided by Cupidstoy (a few threads above) stated the following:
"Truck tires (LT-metric) have more rigid sidewalls, and typically feature stronger construction. They're rated for higher pressures and are specifically designed to withstand the considerable weight of a fully loaded rig, along with potentially severe towing demands. They enable you to maximize control over your vehicle when operating it under load.
In comparison, P-metric tires are typically designed for a quiet, smooth ride – the kind of ride you want in the family sedan. They're rated for lower pressures, are lighter, and maximize handling and fuel economy."
So according to the article, for maximum handling and fuel economy, buy P-metric.
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Passenger Tires on Tundra?
'05 Tundra DC TRD 2 WHL: The TOW truck, Spectra Mica Blue, with Kenwood H/U, Kenwood Amp and crossover. Infinity 6010cs, 10" Rockford SUB, 6 disc CD Changer mounted in Center console, SWI-X to retain steering wheel controls, 7" TV with DVD. Tinted Windows, Three chamber Flowmaster, Painted front chrome strip 
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