With plenty of ultra light fifth wheels becoming available I was just curious if anyone has set up their new tundra to pull a fiver?
Forrest River has a light weight with a pin weight of 1000 lbs. (unloaded)
I understand that after you add a hitch and folks that I would max out the payload capacity.
I imagine that a slider hitch would be needed due to the small box on the double cab.
I have seen an ton of 1/2 tons out there pulling this trailer.
I'm sure that Toyota adds in some fudge factor to their ratings.
The commercials say that our trucks are built to work at their max capacities everyday.
I wonder......................
With plenty of ultra light fifth wheels becoming available I was just curious if anyone has set up their new tundra to pull a fiver?
Forrest River has a light weight with a pin weight of 1000 lbs. (unloaded)
I understand that after you add a hitch and folks that I would max out the payload capacity.
I imagine that a slider hitch would be needed due to the small box on the double cab.
I have seen an ton of 1/2 tons out there pulling this trailer.
I'm sure that Toyota adds in some fudge factor to their ratings.
The commercials say that our trucks are built to work at their max capacities everyday.
I wonder......................
Bill
This is the dirty little secret of these half tons with huge tow ratings. If you really want to use them you are going to surpass the GVWR of the truck itself, long before the GCVWR is near maximum.
It's exacerbated on my particular truck, I have a long bed double cab 4x4 with a HUGE bed for carrying loads or pulling a 5-er, but I only have a payload of 1200 lbs. Subtract 500 for driver, passenger, gear, and fuel it leaves you with a huge bed for hauling 800lbs. Luckily for me, that is about what my dirt bike and the old ladies quad weigh together.
I believe I will be buying an ultralight fifth wheel in the future for toy hauling duties. These have pin weights right near the payload for the truck. My plan is to minimize what rides in the truck, and maximize what rides in the trailer. Hopefully, if something goes wrong I wont get my a$$ sued off because i'm a few hundred lbs over GVWR. Personally I would not take that risk if we did not have an umbrella insurance policy for the little woman's biz.
I'm a little peeved at Toyota for showing that commercial where they load 2000 lbs of manure into the tundy and say it can do it all day. They didn't take into account the driver, fuel, etc. But, truth be told, this is all my own fault for not buying a 3/4 or 1 ton. Though at the time, I liked the Tundra so much I was willing to make concessions.
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2007 Tundra DC Loooong Bed 5.7L 4x4 Slate
I've got my DC setup as a gooseneck type with the hidden hitch. I tow a 6200lb 5er w/ 1250 pin weight. I also put our 3 sport quads & honda generator on behind & go tandom. Tows it great w/ plenty of power. Pulling home today from vacation in a head wind i was in 5th, & 4th gear on the hills @ 70mph.
The only problem is that the sides on this truck are very tall. So getting enough clearance between the rails and the trailer is a challenge. If you're not careful, you'll damage your bed rails.
I do not have a slider & would not spend the extra money on it. Most folks i know that have it don't ever use it. So what's the point?
I'm just careful when backing because i can only do a 70 degree turn.
Yes... and having a great time... I have a 2008 Forest River 34 foot fifth wheel.... Surveyor.... About 7300lbs dry... 9300lbs (?)fully loaded (although I can't ever see a time when it would be fully loaded.
I have a super slide hitch installed and it works great.
I posted on rv.net about these "stories" about liability in an accident due to overweight - turns out that this is myth! A number of knowledgeable responders [some with law enforcement backgrounds] had no knowledge of the "remains" of an accident being hauled off to a scale to determine liability!
This is the dirty little secret of these half tons with huge tow ratings. If you really want to use them you are going to surpass the GVWR of the truck itself, long before the GCVWR is near maximum.
It's exacerbated on my particular truck, I have a long bed double cab 4x4 with a HUGE bed for carrying loads or pulling a 5-er, but I only have a payload of 1200 lbs. Subtract 500 for driver, passenger, gear, and fuel it leaves you with a huge bed for hauling 800lbs. Luckily for me, that is about what my dirt bike and the old ladies quad weigh together.
I believe I will be buying an ultralight fifth wheel in the future for toy hauling duties. These have pin weights right near the payload for the truck. My plan is to minimize what rides in the truck, and maximize what rides in the trailer. Hopefully, if something goes wrong I wont get my a$$ sued off because i'm a few hundred lbs over GVWR. Personally I would not take that risk if we did not have an umbrella insurance policy for the little woman's biz.
I'm a little peeved at Toyota for showing that commercial where they load 2000 lbs of manure into the tundy and say it can do it all day. They didn't take into account the driver, fuel, etc. But, truth be told, this is all my own fault for not buying a 3/4 or 1 ton. Though at the time, I liked the Tundra so much I was willing to make concessions.
It is very refreshing to read your comments! You are obviously someone who is very intelligent enough to understand GVWR, your liablities when exceeding GVWR not to mention not buying into the commercials generated by Toyota's marketing team.
I posted on rv.net about these "stories" about liability in an accident due to overweight - turns out that this is myth! A number of knowledgeable responders [some with law enforcement backgrounds] had no knowledge of the "remains" of an accident being hauled off to a scale to determine liability!
That is not entirely true. My friend was sited by the officers at the scene when they pulled the trailer identification badge that provided the GVWR in plain English. He had a really difficult time with his insurance too. It was not a good time for him especially since his daughter and wife were injured when his truck flipped due to an overloaded truck. Needless to say he currently owns a 1 ton after his 1/2 ton Dodge was totaled.
Last edited by Sequoia2003; 09-13-2007 at 10:08 PM.
That is not entirely true. My friend was sited by the officers at the scene when they pulled the trailer identification badge that provided the GVWR in plain English. He had a really difficult time with his insurance too. It was not a good time for him especially since his daughter and wife were injured when his truck flipped due to an overloaded truck. Needless to say he currently owns a 1 ton after his 1/2 ton Dodge was totaled.
Anyone towing a fifth wheel yet?
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