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Default Is GVWR of 4850 too much for V-6 ?

I have found a camping trailer that I would like to buy, and wanted to get some opinions on the feasibility of towing it with my Tundra.

I have a 2007 Reg. cab, long bed Tundra with a v-6 and a 5 spd auto-trans.
According to Toyota, the tow rating is 5,000 lbs.

The trailer I would like to buy has a GVWR of 4850 ...
I know that on paper it looks like I can do that, but I was wanting some input from folks who may have more experience towing a trailer about this weight..

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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

I would pass it up if you plan on pulling long distances. Short 1 hour or less trips will be ok.



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I have a 2007 Tundra Reg. Cab long bed with the V-6 and 5 spd auto-trans.

My Toyota manual says that I can pull a max of 5,000 lbs.

I have a chance to buy a camping trailer that I like, and it has a GVWR of 4850.

I know that on paper I should be able to pull that much, but I wanted to ask more experienced trailer pullers if they thought I would be OK with that set up?

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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

thats empty weight, no one carries an empty trailer, plus people, and stuff in bed
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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

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thats empty weight, no one carries an empty trailer, plus people, and stuff in bed

A gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) is the maximum allowable total weight of a road vehicle or trailer that is loaded, including the weight of the vehicle.
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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

you can pull 5,000 on the BUMPER. If your truck came with a tow package you should be somewhere between 6,000-7,000. If it didn't get one, Tacomas can pull 5,000, why shoulden't you be able to?
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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

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you can pull 5,000 on the BUMPER. If your truck came with a tow package you should be somewhere between 6,000-7,000. If it didn't get one, Tacomas can pull 5,000, why shoulden't you be able to?
5000#'s on the bumper? Where did you read or hear that ?
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Default Re: Is GVWR of 4850 too much for V-6 ?

As long as you don't overload the truck and trailer with *stuff*, you should be OK. Probably not ideal for really long trips or mountains.
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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

Yikes, that's a lot on these flemsy bumpers lol.

The only limit is the engine. That's why you can't tow more than a Taco or probably what an FJ can. Those engines just can't "pull" that weight as well as a 4.7 or a 5.7.

I think probably pass but then again, I don't tow so I am not sure.

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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

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Yikes, that's a lot on these flemsy bumpers lol.

The only limit is the engine. That's why you can't tow more than a Taco or probably what an FJ can. Those engines just can't "pull" that weight as well as a 4.7 or a 5.7.

I think probably pass but then again, I don't tow so I am not sure.

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Yea the V-6 probably doesn't have the beefed up 10.5" rearend like out 5.7's have with tow packages.
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Default Re: Is GVWR of 4850 too much for V-6 ?

I imagine the hitch can take the weight as well as the truck/brakes. The only limitation is power. I'd say go for it. Maybe you can take it on a test tow or rent a u-haul and load it to the same weight and see how the truck does.

I'm sure your limitation is the motor and not the truck.
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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

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thats empty weight, no one carries an empty trailer, plus people, and stuff in bed
The trailer GVWR is the maximum that the trailer, all of it's fluids and bedding and luggage and odds and ends can weigh.

It's rated to be a max of 4850 lbs. TOTAL OF ALL

It has nothing to do with the tow vehicle. That's a separate vehicle and carries it's own rating.

The trailer I am interested in, has an empty weight of 3300 lbs.. so, I could load the trailer up with 1550 lbs of cargo and such, to the max. of it's rating of 4850.

Will my 2007 V-6 pull that satisfactory?

I am not using a ball on the bumper to pull it with.
I have put on a Reese class IV that is rated for 6000 lbs pull, and 800 lbs tongue weight.

I reckon it's the engine and trans that I am wondering about..

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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

IMO the truck will do just fine, you have the right setup, your truck is not that heavy, and the 4.0 V6 has enough HP. BUT, try and see if you can hitch it and tow it first before you buy it.
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Default Re: Is a GVWR of 4850 too much for a V-6 ?

I have the 4-Runner with the V6, and I believe it will pull the weight just fine. You'll definitely know it's back there, in my area we have some very hilly highways, and the V6 does work on those areas (Not a lot of torque down low in the RPM range). I've pulled heavy loads like this several times, and the best advice I can give is keep everything maintained well and your drive train will be OK. One thing I don't know about on your Tundra is the brakes - I've often felt that my brakes are the weaker link in the whole towing equation. Does the trailer you are looking at have electric brakes? If so great - if not, then you'll want to leave yourself a nice buffer for stopping. Hopefully the Tundra has beefier brakes than my 4Runner does.

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Default Re: Is GVWR of 4850 too much for V-6 ?

Thanks for the input .... I really do appreciate it..

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Thanks all,

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