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Old 02-20-2009, 01:50 PM
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At no point had I exceeded 65 while towing this trailer, but earlier in the day I had pulled it down about 60 miles of gravel road, and the stones may have weakened the lamination between the belts?

It wasn't the sidewall that failed on my tires, but the tread separated from the tire. So now to find some LT tires in 225/75R15D. wish me luck
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Just got off the phone with Gulfstream, won't be buying anything else from them. They stand by their tires adn say that they weren't underrated. Has anyone else ever heard of taking the pin weight off of the total weight of the fifth wheel? That's what they told me. To me, it seems that the weight of the trailer is the weight of the trailer no matter what.
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Since the pin weight is carried by the tow vehicle, it is reasonable to subtract that from the weight that the trailer tires carry. But that doesn't mean that the trailer tires should be rated to carry just enough. I always thought that the trailer manufacturers could put some tires on with margin, but most supply tires that are rated for the GVWR of the trailer minus the hitch weight. My trailer is like that. Just enough tire rating to carry the GVWR minus the hitch weight.

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OK, thanks. I think that mine might be a little off because the lift and tire size that I have on my truck. The front of the trailer sits a little nose high, I don't have a choice in the matter because otherwise the trailer will hit my bed when goign into or out of parking lots. I've kissed it before.
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The only concern I would have with a trailer that isn't level is that one axle will be carrying more weight than the other. I haven't verified this with weight chits though, so it might be a non issue.

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OK, thanks. I think that mine might be a little off because the lift and tire size that I have on my truck. The front of the trailer sits a little nose high, I don't have a choice in the matter because otherwise the trailer will hit my bed when goign into or out of parking lots. I've kissed it before.
Was the actual tire that blew on the rear of the trailer? If so, this could be part of the reason the tire blew. Too much weight on the rear axle.

One thing you can do is put blocks on the axle's of the trailer to lift the trailer a little. This is if the springs are on top of the axle, not bottom. If they're on the bottom, you can simply flip-flop them and gain 3" ht. on the trailer and level it out as well.

I was in the same boat as you at one time; take a look at this pic which is before i put the blocks on.



BTW.....where is a pic of your rig???

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Yeah, the tire was on the driver side rear axle. I think I will try and put blocks on it and level it out. The reason that there aren't any pics is I couldn't find any batteries for the camera when I the trailer at my house. It is now sitting at the RV dealer trying to get fixed. I'll scan a copy of the repair bill when I finally get to go pick it up. Hopefully it will be soon, we are going camping in the panhandle in less than a month.
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Don't know if this will be any help but anyway the guy camping next to told me he found bulges in sidewalls of his Mission tires. He called Keystone who gave him the number of the tire distributor who sent him 5 brand new tires UPS that he promptly sold and used the money buy 5 Goodyears.
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Don't know if this will be any help but anyway the guy camping next to told me he found bulges in sidewalls of his Mission tires. He called Keystone who gave him the number of the tire distributor who sent him 5 brand new tires UPS that he promptly sold and used the money buy 5 Goodyears.
Already tried that with Carisle and Gulfstream, didn't work with either of them. As soon as I can get my trailer back, I'm going to tote it down to Discount Tire Direct and trade the tires in for the Maxxis. Hopefully it will make it that far on the tires.
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I put on a set of Goodyear Marathons three years ago. Our last trip out was last November and while prepping the trailer and doing my usual tire check I found three of the four were suffering from tread separation. The tires had 30,000 kms on them, we always tow at 100 km/h, pressure is kept at 50 PSI religiously, the trailer is 1,000 pounds under GVWR, and tires are well within capacity.

So I was ticked. These Marathons were made in New Zealand. My neighbour bought Marathons last summer and his are Chinese.

Goodyear, to their credit, replaced the tires minus the treadwear so I ended up paying half price. My local tire shop said in fact all four were shot. The new tires are made in USA.

So while I was disappointed with the longevity of the Marathons, Goodyear stepped up and I now have another set.

Seems there are good and bad with every brand.
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I put on a set of Goodyear Marathons three years ago. Our last trip out was last November and while prepping the trailer and doing my usual tire check I found three of the four were suffering from tread separation. The tires had 30,000 kms on them, we always tow at 100 km/h, pressure is kept at 50 PSI religiously, the trailer is 1,000 pounds under GVWR, and tires are well within capacity.

So I was ticked. These Marathons were made in New Zealand. My neighbour bought Marathons last summer and his are Chinese.

Goodyear, to their credit, replaced the tires minus the treadwear so I ended up paying half price. My local tire shop said in fact all four were shot. The new tires are made in USA.

So while I was disappointed with the longevity of the Marathons, Goodyear stepped up and I now have another set.

Seems there are good and bad with every brand.
I agree completely with that statement. I just wish Carlisle or Gulfstream would step up and do something about it. All I really want is for my trailer to get fixed, I've about given up on the tires and plan on trading them as soon as the trailer gets repaired.
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Just a heads up guys.

I've been looking for some better LT 8 ply tires for my trailer in 15", and there is none to be found. Seems as though the only option is to go with a POS made in china ST tire. Sucks.
I don't think i want to go to an LT 6-ply tire, cause the max load rating goes down. But........maybe this would be a better choice. Dunno.

Since i've already previously spent some money on aluminum 15" wheels, i'll have to wait until we either upgrade to a nicer trailer, or upgrade to 16" wheels. There is an abundance of nice LT 8 or 10 ply tires in 16", but none in 15".
Oh well, guess i'll have to slow her down a little and watch the psi before i leave and check again before i come home.
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OTFM, I agree. After my trailer sitting at the dealership for what seems like forever, I finally got a call last Thursday asking when I would need it. I told them that I was going to pick it up this Saturday so it had better be ready. We'll see, we are going camping for a week and I'm not giving up my vacation. Also, Carisle asked me for receipts for the tire replacement, I explained to her that we haven't had the tires replaced yet because it's been sitting at the dealer for last month or so waiting on them to authorize the repair. They still haven't, but the delaership is going to fix it under warranty. Either way, I told her that we wanted the tires replaced and it would be ok for her to put E rated tires from them on the repair bill. I'm not real excited about having Carisle tires back on it, but they are a heavier load range and maybe it'll all work out. BTW, the original estimate from the dealership was around $2000, the repair bill that they sent to Carisle was around $1300. Also, I asked the lady at Carisle what was the reason that the tire blew out, she said that it could have been a blowout, could have happened from a previous impact, or I could have hit something and caused it to blowout. I told her if I had hit something, my truck tires and the front trailer tire would have blown out, not the rear trailer tire. She said that it was normal for the engineer to say that, I guess to CYA. I'll post up what the final results are.
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