Its amazing how much more stuff my wife can fit in the outback, last season i noticed the addtion of wine and cocktail glasses....we've come a long way from sleeping in a tent.
Glad to hear there is another Outback similiar size as mine being pulled by a tundra, for a while i thought i was alone.
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old 2007 Tundra DC 8' bed 5.7 4x4
new 2008 ford f350 oil burner
Actually, another reason mine might be heavier than yours...kid stuff. Got a pack-n-play, high chairs, all kinds of toys and junk we keep in there. I really like to just go to the camper and have everything there since we use it every other weekend and several weeks in the summer.
My wife is the same way, when i cleaned out the perishable items for the winter there must have been about a gallon of olive oil. Every trip she adds more stuff without verifying what is actually in there, the camper has actually become our second home.
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old 2007 Tundra DC 8' bed 5.7 4x4
new 2008 ford f350 oil burner
She's 32' from front to rear end, but 35' from hitch to spare tire. I have a large inlet in the back of the house that I back this baby into from a 16' wide alley, while dodging 2 gas meters. Lots of practice. Funny thing is, this one is easier to back up than my previous 16' long TT. Go figure.
How does she pull? Empty, the TT weighs in at 7800 pounds. That includes 2 full 30 pound propane bottles and one battery. I added an electric hitch (because they are the best inventions ever) and that added a few more pounds. With my stuff (minimal), my 2 kids (some books and toys), and the wife's (unbelievable), I usually weigh in at 9000-9300 max. Still about 1k under the published limit. I have the Reese dual cam WDH and that helps a lot. The truck pulls it like a champ. Really, you would be shocked. Go over to RV.net and they will ridicule you for not having a 1 ton deisel. "Its not safe", bla, bla, bla. Numbers don't lie. Im under my limits in both cargo capacity, tongue weight, and pull weight. I honestly think it drives them crazy that a toyota is pulling that much weight on a gas engine, but this truck was waaaay overbuilt, and thats why it pulls that trailer so well.
One key thing I did besides the Reese setup is I ditched the P-rated tires and went with a 10 ply ( I think an A-rating) tire for the truck. This was because I knew it would reduce my chances of a blowout due to the added weight/pressure/temp increases on the tires. Very $$ tires, but worth it.
The tundra is more than enough to pull that Jayco. I love it. Don't be intimidated by the size. I have had scarier towing experiences pulling tiny U-Haul trailers.
She's 32' from front to rear end, but 35' from hitch to spare tire. I have a large inlet in the back of the house that I back this baby into from a 16' wide alley, while dodging 2 gas meters. Lots of practice. Funny thing is, this one is easier to back up than my previous 16' long TT. Go figure.
How does she pull? Empty, the TT weighs in at 7800 pounds. That includes 2 full 30 pound propane bottles and one battery. I added an electric hitch (because they are the best inventions ever) and that added a few more pounds. With my stuff (minimal), my 2 kids (some books and toys), and the wife's (unbelievable), I usually weigh in at 9000-9300 max. Still about 1k under the published limit. I have the Reese dual cam WDH and that helps a lot. The truck pulls it like a champ. Really, you would be shocked. Go over to RV.net and they will ridicule you for not having a 1 ton deisel. "Its not safe", bla, bla, bla. Numbers don't lie. Im under my limits in both cargo capacity, tongue weight, and pull weight. I honestly think it drives them crazy that a toyota is pulling that much weight on a gas engine, but this truck was waaaay overbuilt, and thats why it pulls that trailer so well.
One key thing I did besides the Reese setup is I ditched the P-rated tires and went with a 10 ply ( I think an A-rating) tire for the truck. This was because I knew it would reduce my chances of a blowout due to the added weight/pressure/temp increases on the tires. Very $$ tires, but worth it.
The tundra is more than enough to pull that Jayco. I love it. Don't be intimidated by the size. I have had scarier towing experiences pulling tiny U-Haul trailers.
I seen your pic of the fenced in area. Looks like a pretty nice dog house when your old lady kicks you out. hahaha
The reason yours backs easier even though it's longer is, it takes longer for it to actually turn. Where as the 16' trailer was TOO easy to turn, and can screw you up when backing.
The folks on rv.net don't have a clue what this truck is capable of. And most haven't seen the real hard performance numbers while towing. Sad part of it is, the tundra out performed all trucks including the diesels in all areas while towing. Braking included; and some of these numbers would scare you when you're talking 20-40' shorter stops than the competition.
You're wise to dump the P Rated tires, and go to a 10-ply. The 10-ply is an E rated tire, which is best for towing.
I'm glad you're happy with the truck, and i'm very pleased with mine myself. I tow 5er's weighing between 8k & 10k lbs all summer long, and i am very satisfied. I just be sure to follow the towing schedule for maintenance to a Tee, and even go overboard on some things.
Yeah I have noticed RV.net has some guys that I get the feeling just don't like the fact that its a Toyota. This Tundra could be a 1 ton diesel and it wouldn't matter- its a Toyota and not a big 3 truck. I do get plenty of looks from guys in 1500's and F150 and on up from there, as well as the dodge owners- which seem to have a particular distain for my truck. I still cant figure that one out, that I get some of the nastiest looks from Dodge owners. I'm not bragging, I just could give a rip less what someone drives, so it doesn't bother me.
I will say this: the towing section on the TS forum is MUCH better than RV.net's. It's more informative to me because it deals specifically with the Tundra. And the folks at TS are nicer too it seems to me.
That IS a big dog house, you are right. BUT- my true doghouse is the trailer since its parked in the back. I just tuck my tail between my legs and sulk off to the Jayco to play a little Call of Duty on the Playstation! Awwww SHUCKS!
Your wheels are going to fall off, axle will snap in half, frame will twist up and you'll never make the hill. At least this is what a certain group of self appointed weight police on rv.net would have everyone beleive if you drive a toyota. I also like hearing how unamerican it is to drive a foreign brand, typically hear that from dodge owners, my previous 2 dodges were both from Mexico.
Anyway glad to hear there are other tundras towing large trailers. MIne is 32' and 8240lbs, never had an issue keeping up with a ford v10 or a dmax 3500 on any hills.
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new 2008 ford f350 oil burner
How is it too much weight, my truck is rated for 10,200lbs and i am almost 2000 below. After cargo i am still below the rating. These are questions they can never or dont want to answer over on that forum.
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old 2007 Tundra DC 8' bed 5.7 4x4
new 2008 ford f350 oil burner
Go over to RV.net and they will ridicule you for not having a 1 ton deisel. "Its not safe", bla, bla, bla. Numbers don't lie. Im under my limits in both cargo capacity, tongue weight, and pull weight. I honestly think it drives them crazy that a toyota is pulling that much weight on a gas engine, but this truck was waaaay overbuilt, and thats why it pulls that trailer so well.
I hate RV.net, bunch of idiots over there if you ask me. I like Outbackers.com but there are a few over there that hate the fact that it's a Toyota and not big 3. There is one Dodge guy in particular that hates Toyota and bashes it constantly, I can't wait until they are Fiat and Brazilian owned so I can ridicule him. But yeah, I get tired of hearing that I need a 1ton dually for my trailer when the Tundra pulls it just fine. I do love the nasty looks I get in state parks when I pull in with such a big trailer, used to get the same ones with my Tacoma and the 27ft trailer I pulled with it.
Jeep you DO know I was kidding. I'm sure you do, but those are the responses I get from that website. I was talking to a buddy of mine at school the other day (I'm in med school) and he was telling me about a friend of his that lives in Michigan, and told him that if you mention anything negative about the auto industry bailouts, they will straight up chase you down up there. In there minds, these 3 companies are perfect, and so are their products. In some ways, those attitudes have paralleled with the ones over at RVnet. They know everything, you know nothing. You own a Toyota, so that makes you unqualified to tow anything but a minibike.
I will give you a good example if you want to go over and check. Check this thread out:
A 2wd vs. 4wd thread that goes on for PAGES. Some of the dumbest back-and-forth I've seen in a while, all because the OP said he was pulling people who were stuck, out with his 4wd. His was simply an opinion and look how out of hand it got and got nowhere fast. I have a 2wd and I sure didnt care or took offense to it. Bu the sensitivity over there has gotten out of control.
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