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Is there any 2007-2010 Tundras 5.7 V8 out there that haul fifth's??? We just bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra 5.7 V8 with towing cap. at 10,300lbs. We also just bought a 2009 Sundance fifth wheel. the specs. on the rv seem to be very confusing they gave us a unlaoded weight of 8262lbs and a king pin wight of 1940lbs. I know we didn't put 4000lbs of gear in it so the weight of rig loaded is about 10,500lbs little over my tow rate but the payload seems to be the big issue. The pay load on my truck says 1640lbs. the rear axle is 4150lbs front 4000lbs. getting so much conflicting info.

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I gave a similar answer on the main Tundra page, but I'll give some ideas here.

First, the load you'll be carrying is significantly over what Toyota rates the truck at. I believe the rear axle can carry the load but the tires and springs aren't up to the task. New tires and ideally air bags will be absolutely necessary.

DSP and other companies make slide in hitches for any truck, you'll need to get the hitch professionally installed if you've not done it before; there are various L brackets that attach the rails to the frame, and also you bolt the rails to the bed. In tow mode, the pin needs to be very slightly ahead of the rear axle, if you have a slider or adjustable hitch, it will slide back for tight turns, backing up into parking places, etc.
My trailer had a rated pin weight of 1,370 lbs, so I thought I'd be well within my rated payload of 1,530 lbs, or at least not exceed my rear axle rating. Here's what I actually got on the scales:

Front Axle:........3,850 lbs
Rear Axle:.........4,818 lbs
Trailer Axle........8,470 lbs
Total weight:....17,116 lbs

You may already know that recreational vehicles are not subject to the same loading regulation oversight as commercial vehicles, but that being said you probably don't want to crash and be subjected to possible litigation. Caution in towing this heavy a load is the key. I would recommend not exceeding 65 MPH, and keeping the load as reasonable as possible.

Other Tundra 5th wheelers will likely have some good points as well. That's a very big trailer you are planning to tow!
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I answered you on the Tundra forum too, but this is the right place to ask so I will copy it here for you.

I must ask what idiot told you Reese doesn't make a hitch setup for the Tundra? I'm only curious because I have a Reese 16k super slide on my Tundra, all hitches and slides are universal, the install kit is the difference and Reese makes one for the Tundra. Here is the link to the Tundra kit from Reese and instructions.

http://www.reeseprod.com/fitguides/pdf/N58309.pdf

|| REESE PRODUCTS ||


Part Number: 58309 (Now Available)

Description: Fifth Wheel Spacer Kit (07-09 Toyota Tundra, Includes (2) 1/2" x 1-1/4" Spacer, (3) 1/2"-13 x 1-3/4" Carriage Bolt, (3) 1/2"-13 x 3" Carriage Bolt, (2) Bevel Washer)

Warranty: Limited 5 Year

Weight: 3 lbs.

Size: 8" L x 8" W x 2" H


Oh and like said, get some helper springs or air bags and dont' sweat the small stuff. I used Hellwig springs for my setup as I don't want to deal with airing airbags... just lazy. And you will have to replace those car tires that Toyota puts on the Tundra, get some E rated, Michelin and BF Goodrich seem to be the favorites, I when with Michelins.

Here are the springs I used.

http://www.hellwigproducts.com/produ...rings/ez_level

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Oh ya, now that you found the towing section, dig around in some of the older posts and you may find most all the answers to your questions, and if not don't be shy about asking.

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I'm glad you made it over here. I have air bags by Firestone with their airpump. Nice easy set up to install and you can taylor your load. To find out what you really have you have to go to the scales and get weighed. My camper went from 6430 dry factory weight to 8470 actual scale weight.
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You will be overloading your truck by a lot. That is too much trailer for a Tundra, despite what anyone on here might say. Adding tires, springs, shocks, helium or anything else does not change the ratings.

So, decide if you want to tow overweight. Way overweight. You can mitigate the overage with the aforementioned add-ons, but your on your own. I wouldn't tow that heavy.

But, that's my opinion.

So, let's start with some data and go from there. I'd rather help you tow as safely as possible than just offer my opinion.

Go weigh your truck with the fifth wheel attached. Get the individual axle weights: front axle, rear axle and you can put both trailer axles on one pad.

Report back and we'll see what we can do.

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