i have '06' tundra 4x4 dbl cab lifted 7in, on 33in rubber i want to buy a toy hauler im not sure if my truck would handle it ...... i dont know what to buy ...
i dont think i need somthing realy big , but somthing contfoable for two adults and a 3yr old boy & one on the way.. i need somthing to carrie all my camping gear *** well two quads & lilttle quad and riding gear .. and stadard equipment you would use in the dunes any tips will help me out ...
do i need any performance prod to help me tow ?
I used to have a weekend warrior superlight FS2300. I towed it with an 05 DC 4X4. It towed it OK empty but I wouldn't want to tow that trailer loaded with OHV's, bikes, and water.
I'd try and find a trailer that would put you around 5500-5700 lbs fully loaded. Take a look at a weekend warrior FK1900. Its around 4200 lbs dry
And those tires will really hurt your towing performance unless you regeared the diffs. It will effectively reduce your towing abilities.
what is the regeared diff and what does cost to in stall or price for the parts, what does this do for the truck
thanks for the tips
is their any perfomance parts i should in stall
what is the regeared diff and what does cost to in stall or price for the parts, what does this do for the truck
thanks for the tips
is their any perfomance parts i should in stall
Regearing the differentials changes the axle ratio...it returns the rear wheel torque your oversize tires took away. For your 33 inch tires, you really need at at least a 4.56 axle ratio to get decent towing performance with 33 inch tires. Regearing requires extreme precision to set the tooth contact...and a heckuva lot of knowledge. It is NOT a do-it-yourself job. And it's also a rather expensive undertaking: Expect to pay around $400 (or more) per axle for all the needed parts and probably another $300 (or more) per axle for labor. In other words, your total cost could be somewhere around $1200 to $1600 (or more) for your 4X4.
As for the trailer, toy haulers are notorious for having extremely high total weights and extremely high tongue weights when loaded. rcDave is absolutely correct that you must get a trailer that has an empty weight around 4000 lbs (under 6000 lbs loaded) if you're going to be able to safely tow it with your Tundra.
And I hate to tell ya, but you're going to have a lot of trouble finding a toy hauler that will hold 3 quads (and all the gear that goes with them) yet weighs only about 4000 lbs empty.
What sometimes happens is guys ignore our warnings about total weight and go buy a toy hauler that's big enough to hold their toys. And gear. And have tanks for the hundreds of gallons of water and fuel they also want to bring on their trips. And be large enough/comfortable enough to relax in after the riding is done.
And suddenly they have a trailer that's weighing around 8000~10000 lbs when loaded. Which is about 2000 lbs~4000 lbs more than the truck was designed to handle when it too is loaded. And then sooner or later, usually sooner if the trailer gets towed off road, important stuff on the truck breaks....like axles, axle bearings, hitches, frames, etc. And then they have a ruined truck.
I have a very strong sense that your Tundra, regeared or not, is woefully inadequate for towing the kind of toy hauler load you'll want to tow, what with the desire for it hold 3 quads and provide comfortable room for a family of 4. So you can either really downsize the kind of trailer you're looking for....or trade the Tundra for a 3/4 ton (or even 1 ton) domestic truck that's designed for those kinds of weights. You might get away with the new '07 Tundra but you'll never hack the kind of trailer you want with your '06.
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you are driving a v8. you will be fine with more than 5500#... shiat, my v6 tundra pulls 5500 pounds no problem and its only rated at 5000#. even my jeep thats rated at only 3500 still pulls 5000# . people on this board stress over things like the trucks going to blow up as soon as you hook up the trailer. theres HELLA people on this board that pull rediculously heavy heavy loads and their trucks are fine. just make sure you have a tranny cooler (which im sure you do since you have a v8 4x4) and a trailer brake controller. you are not even at you "towing capacity" at 5500# you still have a thousand pounds to spare. your tires will kill your gas though unless you regear like it was stated above.
you are driving a v8. you will be fine with more than 5500#... shiat, my v6 tundra pulls 5500 pounds no problem and its only rated at 5000#. even my jeep thats rated at only 3500 still pulls 5000# . people on this board stress over things like the trucks going to blow up as soon as you hook up the trailer. theres HELLA people on this board that pull rediculously heavy heavy loads and their trucks are fine. just make sure you have a tranny cooler (which im sure you do since you have a v8 4x4) and a trailer brake controller. you are not even at you "towing capacity" at 5500# you still have a thousand pounds to spare. your tires will kill your gas though unless you regear like it was stated above.
Dangerous advise provided here. Its not the engine or drivetrain I'd worry about. its the design limits of the frame, suspension, rear end, etc. The combined GCWR of the Tundra is 11,800 lbs. Empty with just the driver, the truck probably weights about 5,500 lbs. That leaves only a max towing capacity of 6,300 lbs. Now add a full tank of gas, supplies, and a few peeps and you easily add 500-750 lbs. Now your max towing capacity of a trailer is about 5500-5700 lbs.
I've towed a number of trailers weighing 5300-5700 lbs. That is as much as this truck is capable of safely - in my opinion.
yes just like i said. you will be fine... i wouldnt even worry about that toy hauler. obviously try to get the lightest one you can find. of course its not like you are going to be trying to pull 10000 lbs. a couple hundred pounds extra aint gunna kill you. no different then adding one more guest in the cab.
Anyone ever see the guy tow a semi with his teeth?
Tow within the manufacturer's specified weight limits. Weigh the trailer before you buy it. Add in everything you plan to take with you. Make sure that does not exceed the GVWR, GCWR or GAWR. Just that simple.
Can you tow more? Sure. Should you? Up to you. Hook it up and go is a good way to hurt someone. Trucks do break, accidents do happen. I can tow a 40,000 lbs trailer down the road no problem. But when the moron in the next lane cuts me off or someone pulls out in front of me, we all die.
The WORST offenders, by far, are 3/4 ton diesel drivers. You should see what they think is ok to pull and how much they exceed all their rate ratings. You always hear from the ones that get by and never have an issue. Never see a post from those that don't. I guess you could say it's ok because nothing bad happens. Up to you. If you are only putting your own self at risk, I could give a hoot. But you're driving on the road with me and my family. Do me a favor and tow responsibly.
i have '06' tundra 4x4 dbl cab lifted 7in, on 33in rubber i want to buy a toy hauler im not sure if my truck would handle it ...... i dont know what to buy ...
i dont think i need somthing realy big , but somthing contfoable for two adults and a 3yr old boy & one on the way.. i need somthing to carrie all my camping gear *** well two quads & lilttle quad and riding gear .. and stadard equipment you would use in the dunes any tips will help me out ...
do i need any performance prod to help me tow ?
Big Guido,
Of all the guys on here, RockyMtnRay is the one I would listen to. He is looking out for your family. Save your money for a bigger truck and a heavy toyhauler. Right now why don't you share the load with family or friends. One of you tow the toys and the other tow the sleeping arrangements. Works and is a lot more fun. Lots of family types out there sharing campsites.
Ken
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Of all the guys on here, RockyMtnRay is the one I would listen to. He is looking out for your family. Save your money for a bigger truck and a heavy toyhauler. Right now why don't you share the load with family or friends. One of you tow the toys and the other tow the sleeping arrangements. Works and is a lot more fun. Lots of family types out there sharing campsites.
Ken
I agree, RockyMtnRay and Tomhole give great advice. Just take a look at my sig and see what I'm driving now (Ray's fault ).
Seriously though if Ray hadn't steered me in the right direction I would have bought a small toy hauler that would not have suited our needs, and it STILL wouldn't have towed well or within capacity of a 1/2 ton. Then I would have upgraded from my '06 AC Tundra. Then I would have had to trade the inadequate toy hauler and lose even more money. Luckily my Toyota held it's value really well (partially because I got an amazing deal on it to start with) and Chevy discounted the hell out my Duramax. I barely lost anything on the transaction.
The only problem I have now is that I had the best 1/2 ton ever (IMO), will I ever adjust to the Chevy? It's actually a really nice truck, the Allison tranny and Duramax are awesome. I've already gotten over 18 mpg with it.
I wouldn't suggest listening to Fo Shizzle Wizzle (not that you are) he's spewing some "Hella" bad advice
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2006 Tundra TRD AC Silver - Traded In
The 2007 Tundra will be the best towing 1/2 ton out there, but it is still governed by the specs. I just made a post on an rv forum about the 6 spd 2007 Tundra tranny vs. a Ford 4 spd. Oh my goodness, this thing is gonna pull like a mule:
2007 Ford F-150 4 spd auto tranny (4R75E) gear ratios:
That 1st gear is TAAAAAALLLLLL. Combined with a 4.30 rear, there will be nothing that can come anywhere close to that in any gasser, 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton. Toyota has hit a towing home run with this drive train. ANd with the double overdrive, you can still get good gas mileage while not towing.
Just remember, the GVWR is still the limiting factor when towing with this beast. If Toyota decides to put that drive train in an 8400 lbs GVWR frame, the only thing the big 3 will have going for them is the oil burner.
BTW, nice truck. I've been drueling over the new 2007 Silverado 2500HD D/A.
Thanks Tom. Yeah the '07s (non-classic) look awesome. I wanted to trade my Tundra before the '07 Tundras were released, and there is no way I would have gotten the same deal on the new D-max as I did on my Classic.
Besides that back in 1995 I purchased a first model year 95.5 Tacoma that was a complete lemon and the worst vehicle I've owned. Since then I try my best not to purchase first model year releases. Although I did purchase a 2000 Xterra in 1999 and it was a perfect truck for 90K. The difference there was that the drive train was already proven in the Pathfinder for 4 or 5 years and in the Frontier for 2 (from what I remember).
Reading about all the new emissions equipment and sensors on the new post 1/1/07 Diesels made me a little nervous. Buying vehicles in there last model year always makes me feel better. My last 3 trucks were a '04 Tacoma, '06 Tundra, and '07 Silverado Classic
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2006 Tundra TRD AC Silver - Traded In
i have '06' tundra 4x4 dbl cab lifted 7in, on 33in rubber i want to buy a toy hauler im not sure if my truck would handle it ...... i dont know what to buy ...
i dont think i need somthing realy big , but somthing contfoable for two adults and a 3yr old boy & one on the way.. i need somthing to carrie all my camping gear *** well two quads & lilttle quad and riding gear .. and stadard equipment you would use in the dunes any tips will help me out ...
do i need any performance prod to help me tow ?
I think your truck will handle an appropriately sized toybox just fine.
For example. I have an 04 access cab 2wd V8 with a brake controller, weight distribuition, 33" tires with stock gears, 3.5" lift coilovers up front, headers and exhaust. I tow a 16ft Carson fun runner toybox. When fully loaded with 2 quads, all the camping gear, full freshwater tank, im estimating that the trailer is about 5500lbs. It outweighs the truck by a good amount, but I feel its in reason. I would like to regear, but then 3rd gear would be too slow with O\D locked out. At any rate, I dont think my truck could handle much more weight than what I have.
I plan to purchase a larger trailer in the future (around 27ft) but ill have a 2500-3500 Duramax to pull it with. Its hard to suck in my pride, leave Toyota and go to a domestic, but that will be a safe platform for myself, my fiance and everyone else on the road. The 07 Tundra would be an upgrade from what I have, less than a Duramax, but in the end, its ugly as hell. Why did Toyota make such a butt ugly truck??????????????????
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