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Thank you for posting the obvious! It's just a shame that people are buying into Toyota's marketing campaign thinking it will tow a Boeing 747.
I haven't seen anybody post that they expect the truck to tow more than the factory specifications, much less a 747. Weight Police alert.
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I haven't seen anybody post that they expect the truck to tow more than the factory specifications, much less a 747. Weight Police alert.
I think he may have been being facetious.
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for all of you skeptics who think toyota is playing tricks and telling lies about the tundrs towing ability, fact this is a 1/2 ton truck during the work of a past 3/4 tons trucks, some say it looks like it's struggling because the back end is sagging, those guys bon't know didley quat about trucks, 10,000lbs will make 3/4 tons trucks quat, now for all you uninformed truck guys that are brain dead, read my lips; this is a 1/2 ton truck doubling as a 3/4 ton, i bet the home boys trucks can't due double duty. sagg on that.
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I time I read these threads I laugh my @ss off!

I have forward these to folks I know who own 3/4 tons and 1 tons that tow big loads and they too found these discussions hilarious. No matter Ford is advertising 11,000lbs so I'm sure the Titan will counter with 11,500 and so the Marketing Tow wars will continue much like the HP wars.

It cracks me up that no one here ever purchased their 1st Gen because they needed it to tow 10k lbs, but now that Toyota is marketing the magic 10k number everyone is buying into it.

Next time I see a Tundra pulling a 33' Trailer I will make sure I put my family out of harms way and get around. I would not ever tow that with my 3/4 ton Cummins let alone a 1/2 Tundra, but people do and they will get themselves killed or worse, some innocent by stander like my family. I get so pissed when I see idiots driving trucks over loaded and I shake my head when I see them on their sides, upside down, in a ditch, over heated because they overloaded their vehicle.

Hook up that 10,000lb 5th wheel and then try coming down a 7% grade during stormy conditions (Rain, Windy) and try to make an emergency stop!

It won't be long before there are pictures of overloaded Tundra’s hitting youtube with attitudes like that I am reading in here.
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I time I read these threads I laugh my @ss off!

I have forward these to folks I know who own 3/4 tons and 1 tons that tow big loads and they too found these discussions hilarious. No matter Ford is advertising 11,000lbs so I'm sure the Titan will counter with 11,500 and so the Marketing Tow wars will continue much like the HP wars.

It cracks me up that no one here ever purchased their 1st Gen because they needed it to tow 10k lbs, but now that Toyota is marketing the magic 10k number everyone is buying into it.

Next time I see a Tundra pulling a 33' Trailer I will make sure I put my family out of harms way and get around. I would not ever tow that with my 3/4 ton Cummins let alone a 1/2 Tundra, but people do and they will get themselves killed or worse, some innocent by stander like my family. I get so pissed when I see idiots driving trucks over loaded and I shake my head when I see them on their sides, upside down, in a ditch, over heated because they overloaded their vehicle.

Hook up that 10,000lb 5th wheel and then try coming down a 7% grade during stormy conditions (Rain, Windy) and try to make an emergency stop!

It won't be long before there are pictures of overloaded Tundra’s hitting youtube with attitudes like that I am reading in here.
Auto manufacturers don't just pull these numbers out of their hats. They are bound by government safety regulations and must prove their truck has the ability to tow what they claim, safely. If your max towing is at 10,500 lbs and you have 200 lbs of gas, 300 lbs of human, and a couple hundred lb's of whatever then try to tow 10,000 lb's your over the GCVWR which is unsafe.
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All of you are saying the new Tundra is 1/2 ton, if you own one check your title, mine says 3/4 ton.

Mine too. Maybe a Texas thing. I pull a 7800# 32' bumper pull almost every weekend. No problems. As a matter of fact, when I bought the camper (Travel Trailer), and we loaded it up to the tundra, the pdi guy was shocked that the truck only dropped 1 1/2 inches. He asked if it was a 3/4 ton. He had not seen the 07's yet, I guess.
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To argue we are safer in a 1-ton pickup with one bag of groceries than we are in a 1/2 ton pickup with one bag of groceries is analogous to what the weight police are saying about any operation WITHIN factory specs. Pay them no mind.
That's exactly the point. The tundra shown in the picture ISN'T within the factory specs. The trailer might be below the 10,500 lb limit, but I'm positive the pin weight exceeds the rated payload capacity. It only takes one look at how bad it's squatting in the first picture to instantly know that, even without putting it on a scale. I'm far from the weight police, I used to tow a bulldozer behind my dodge diesel that was about 10,000 overweight. I know a tundra will pull something over it's limits. Heck, I see farmers pulling hay trailers with 30000 lbs of hay on them using 1/2 ton pickups all the time around here. Leave them in the lower gears and you can move a heck of a lot with 150 HP. Just because something will work doesn't mean it's within the factory ratings.

I'm not arguing that a tundra won't pull that camper, it will. However, if you're claiming that it's within the factory specs then you're wrong, because it's not, the pin weight is over the rated payload.
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I'm not arguing that a tundra won't pull that camper, it will. However, if you're claiming that it's within the factory specs then you're wrong, because it's not, the pin weight is over the rated payload.
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I time I read these threads I laugh my @ss off!

I have forward these to folks I know who own 3/4 tons and 1 tons that tow big loads and they too found these discussions hilarious. No matter Ford is advertising 11,000lbs so I'm sure the Titan will counter with 11,500 and so the Marketing Tow wars will continue much like the HP wars.

It cracks me up that no one here ever purchased their 1st Gen because they needed it to tow 10k lbs, but now that Toyota is marketing the magic 10k number everyone is buying into it.

Next time I see a Tundra pulling a 33' Trailer I will make sure I put my family out of harms way and get around. I would not ever tow that with my 3/4 ton Cummins let alone a 1/2 Tundra, but people do and they will get themselves killed or worse, some innocent by stander like my family. I get so pissed when I see idiots driving trucks over loaded and I shake my head when I see them on their sides, upside down, in a ditch, over heated because they overloaded their vehicle.

Hook up that 10,000lb 5th wheel and then try coming down a 7% grade during stormy conditions (Rain, Windy) and try to make an emergency stop!

It won't be long before there are pictures of overloaded Tundra’s hitting youtube with attitudes like that I am reading in here.

I won't argue the fact that this 5er is too big for the tundra & should be towed with a dually. By the time you load that sucker up, you'll be at about 13000 lbs +.
The ONLY trailers i have seen in a ditch, or upside down were the TT 26'+ being towed by a short wheelbase ford bronco or SUV. And i have seen plenty, beleive me. I have yet to see a 5er.
I have came down plenty 7% grades in the rain & wind slightly overloaded. You must have some common sense when doing so. You can't expect all that weight to stop on a dime. In this situation, just simply reduce your speed considerably, gear down, and watch the traffic as far ahead as you can. And you'll be just fine.

If toyota says it can pull 10k, then everybody will. Including myself. But i guarantee you one thing, that 10k will ONLY be a 5er for me.
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Not as it's loaded in that picture, unless the tundra has broken springs. Published empty weights mean nothing, stick it on the scales and tell me what they say. I guarantee it's not 1390 lbs.

Besides, you looked at the wrong column in the chart you referenced (didn't think I'd check, eh?). The OP stated that it was a 33' trailer, the 33 footer in the chart has a dry pin weight of 1620 lbs, not 1390. That's dry, no propane or anything else in there. Add 300 or so for the hitch itself and you're already well over the tundra's payload capacity before you put anything in the trailer.

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Not as it's loaded in that picture, unless the tundra has broken springs. Published empty weights mean nothing, stick it on the scales and tell me what they say. I guarantee it's not 1390 lbs.
Just so we are clear, I agree, it's way too much trailer for the Tundra.

That said, the weight of the toys loaded into the garage of that thing is going to counter balance any clothes and personal items you put up in the master suite, leaving the hitch pin weight the same or less than the published 1390.
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I thought he said it was a 33', not a 32"? Wouldn't that make it 1620 and give it a DRY weight of 9080?

At any rate some of you guys are confused. You are lost in between your pride and reality. We ALL know that the Tundra will pull just about anything, a 747 not withstanding. The point is that you technically may be able to smoke 10 lbs of crack and still live, but is it really smart and do you really want to take that chance just to say you can do it?
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I looked back at the photos - doesn't seem to sag too much - I've seen many f350 with more sag. I'd like to try this set up on the road for a few miles to see how it handles. Handling would be the big question - stopping, etc.
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I thought he said it was a 33', not a 32"? Wouldn't that make it 1620 and give it a DRY weight of 9080?
Yes, he said it was 33', not model #33P which is 34+'. I think he would have to clarify. I still would never pull it with my own.
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I looked back at the photos - doesn't seem to sag too much - I've seen many f350 with more sag. I'd like to try this set up on the road for a few miles to see how it handles. Handling would be the big question - stopping, etc.
Me too. I've been trying to see the excessive sag in the photos. Looks like normal sag to me. I have a long bed DC and mine sags about the same with a 20' tandem-axle flatbed bumper hitched and empty. There is no question the new Tundra could use air bags or a helper spring to control sag when loaded well. It's a great ride but the rear springs are a little on the soft side.
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