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Old 08-04-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: too soon for an oil change?

I don't claim to be an expert, but my last 4 trucks have all ran great, and never had any issues.

I typically change the factory oil out after 1500-2000 miles to a good dino oil. After another 1500-2000 miles I will switch over to Royal Purple.

On my Tundra, I change the factory oil at 2000 miles and went straight to Royal Purple. No dino this time.

I had a 01 Silverado with 85,000 miles that never went in the shop for a thing. I changed the oil every 3000 miles. The last oil change I made, the old oil came out still purple, like it was new. I drove this truck HARD. Quarter mile track runs and street racing every weekend. I abused this truck, and never had 1 issue.
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Here is a piece of advice given me regarding the first oil change. It came from a Ducati motorcycle dealer/engine expert known widely for his race bike engine modification work.

He advises running the original factory dino oil for the full, normal miles as given by the manufacturer BEFORE then switching to full synthetic. The reason being to allow the engine to break in (typically, manufacturers ship vehicles with special break-in oil) so that the rings seat properly and all bearings and gears are run in. This initial wear he considers IMPERATIVE.

Were you to install full synthetic prematurely, the break in would cease and cylinders (especially) would subsequently glaze over, thereby not providing a proper surface condition for oil retention during normal engine function.

Take it FWIW but this all makes sense to me.
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Were you to install full synthetic prematurely, the break in would cease and cylinders (especially) would subsequently glaze over, thereby not providing a proper surface condition for oil retention during normal engine function.
If this is true then why would so many higher end car companies ship their cars from the factory with a full synthetic oil?
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Why not read the Owners Manual and follow the manufacturer suggestions?
Because I think the Manufactureres want to make their vehicles be percieved as low maintenance. This is Marketing talking, not Engineering
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If people would read their owners manual they'd learn the factory fill oil is genuine Toyota (conventional) Motor Oil and they can buy it at their local Toyota dealer's parts dept. So this means they can change their oil any time they want to after buying the truck and they'd still be using factory fill oil and not have to worry about possible adverse affects from changing the oil too soon.

Now does this give any comfort to those asking the oil change questions? Hell no because they find factory oil boring so they'd never want to change the factory oil early and refill with factory oil.
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I am under the impression that this engine (5.7) is built withe very tight tolerances, therefore, i will be running dino oil for at least 15,000 to 20,000 miles, to let the engine loosen up and let the rings seat properly, then i will go to a full synthetic. I followed the manual and did my first oil change at 5000 miles.
I have built air cooled V twin motorcycle engines (Harley's), and followed manufacturers spec's each time (change oil and filter after 1000 miles) and not had an engine failure yet.
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IMHO, the best way to go is to always change the oil at 500 miles, the resume the 3,000 interval. It is my truck and my $$!!


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New to this thing but here goes...I've delayed my oil changes on my 07 Tundra because it was sooooo difficult to find and then attempt to replace the filter on my truck. so I skipped replacing the filter and just replaced the old oil with new oil from the dealer, 0W20. anyone knows where I can get the correct oil filter wrench and from where? Not from Toyota because i felt like they were trying to rape me when they quoted me the price, shipping and taxes involved. I have the 5.7L .

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One of the most quoted oil myths on the internet is "don't use synthetic oil in a new engine". What a bunch of BS. Google oil myths and get the facts. Synthetic oil is not slicker than conventional oil.....it won't have negative effects on new engine break-in.

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0W20. anyone knows where I can get the correct oil filter wrench and from where?
Napa has the correct one. I don't have the receipt handy so I can't get you the part number. Don't get the one that is dual sized, 65 plus 68MM or whatever, guys say they slip on the filter housing.

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i will be running dino oil for at least 15,000 to 20,000 miles, to let the engine loosen up and let the rings seat properly, then i will go to a full synthetic.
I don't think you'll find any knowledgable mechanic that won't agree that an engine is fully broken in at 1500-2500 miles.
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