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Old 08-29-2007, 03:56 AM
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So, acetone is a solvent.

So are toluene (up to 35%), MTBE (an ether, 7.5%, up to 18%), the benzenes (monocyclic aromatics, up to 13%), a host of alkanes (almost all isomers from C5 to C12), and ethanol (up to 10%), all components of gasoline.

Every component of gasoline but one (the polycyclic aromatics, up to maybe 2%) are fantastic solvents for almost all non-polymerized compounds lacking a dipole moment. Water is one of the few compounds they don't dissolve (but if MTBE or ethanol are present, gasoline will solvate a small amount of water).

So why doesn't every fuel line and seal dissolve and crumble under use? They are designed to withstand solvents! Solvents are, in fact, the only thing that goes into your gas tank.

Knowing the properties of the rubbers and plastics used, and the properties of the gasoline compounds involved, I'd frankly be astounded if the manufacturers managed to find a polymer that withstood all the compounds present in gasoline but was susceptible to acetone attack.

P.S. I'm using the term solvent, as I presume the poster I quoted used it, to be those liquids that will dissolve compounds similar to the vehicle components typically exposed to gasoline: rubbers, plastics, metals, and possibly ceramics. The proper definition of solvent and solute depend more on the bulk of material found in each particular solution; gasoline is properly a solution with all components dissolved into the others; given the number of components in the solution, it would be difficult pointing out a single compound functioning as the solvent.

P.P.S. I am not a polymer chemist, nor am I a petroleum chemist. Though I say I'd be astounded to find a polymer that would react with acetone and not gasoline, I don't know that such a polymer doesn't exists. I am a Ph.D. inorganic chemist; I study the broadest range of compounds, their properties, and the bonds that hold atom to atom, and molecule to molecule, thus imparting the bulk properties to the material.

P.P.P.S. I honestly doubt that adding acetone will do anything to the milage you get per tank. I don't think combustion reaction mechanisms support acetone in any catalytic role, and acetone has a lower energy per ounce than gasoline as a whole.
ok, point taken.
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i was being sarcastic...hahaha

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Needs to be Pure Acetone...99%

This can be had at Walgreens and sometimes Home Depot in gallon cans.

I will be more than happy to do the testing on my '07 DC...after I get my first oil change at 3K and have a reference.

I'll post my results in the TS forum. I don't expect great results because I believe the engines do a pretty good job of burning the fuel efficiently. Might see a little more power...and that would be good on the low side.

Gotta' test it to find out though.

Sometimes you gotta think outside the box...right TNK?
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I've tried this stuff and it does work. Gained an avg of 2.5 mpg with 100% pure gas and avg 1mpg with those weak 10% ethanol blend. Even tried it in my big outboard, runs smoother, better and stronger, can't get mileage estimates for my boat because don'r have any section big enough to get a good long run.
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I've tried this stuff and it does work. Gained an avg of 2.5 mpg with 100% pure gas and avg 1mpg with those weak 10% ethanol blend. Even tried it in my big outboard, runs smoother, better and stronger, can't get mileage estimates for my boat because don'r have any section big enough to get a good long run.
So far I'm seeing about 10%. I'm gonna take it to the dragstrip tonight and see if there are any performance gains as well. The seat of my pants testing says that it accelerates much better in the low RPM's.

I started at 3oz per 10 gallons. I'm gonna drop down to 1oz per 10 for the next test.

I found a nice flat piece of road with no houses on it out in the sticks that I'm going to use for 60ft launch testing. I'm going to set up 2 photoeyes at 60' foot apart. When I get the front wheel on the 1st eye it will reset the timer and light up an indicator. When I leave this eye it will start a timer that will run until I hit eye 2. Go back and do it over. The computer will log all of the times. I will log my settings for each launch inside the truck. After I get the data I will post it here. It should help settle the debates over launch RPM, traction and tow settings. Not to mention the fact that it gives me the excuse to go out and drive my truck....

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