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Old 08-25-2007, 10:28 PM
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I,ve got a 5.7L DC. Looking to get a 35' 5th wheel, 8300lbs. dry wt. Hitch is rated at 1730lbs. Am I nuts? I.ve been pulling a 28' travel trailer,7700lbs with no problem.
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I,ve got a 5.7L DC. Looking to get a 35' 5th wheel, 8300lbs. dry wt. Hitch is rated at 1730lbs. Am I nuts? I.ve been pulling a 28' travel trailer,7700lbs with no problem.
That's a little big for the tundra. Although i know it would do it okay, it's a little too much trailer.

Mine weighs 6250 dry w/ 1250 pin. My dad is going to get a tundra, and his trailer weighs 7400lbs dry & around 1500 pin. I don't think i'd tow anything bigger than his with my truck.

5er's are the way to go, but look for something a little smaller. There are plenty of them around that will work.
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Default Re: 5th wheel towing limit

Way too much weight with the 5th wheel.
Stick with a travel trailer.
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I,ve got a 5.7L DC. Looking to get a 35' 5th wheel, 8300lbs. dry wt. Hitch is rated at 1730lbs. Am I nuts? I.ve been pulling a 28' travel trailer,7700lbs with no problem.

No, you;re not nuts just inexperienced at towing IMO Try it, I here all kind of noobs in here hooking up 11k lb + trailers to their Tundra and they claim they can't even tell it's back there.
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This trailer weighs 9000lbs loaded, but it sure don't pull like my 5er house trailer. Much, much easier tow.

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I've been considering towing our 29 foot Keystone with the Tundra. It weighs 8600 lbs and the pin weight is 1480. I KNOW we'd be over weight by about 300-400lbs with the family so I haven't towed it yet. It does seem like others are doing it and it would probably be fine for shorter trips but I'm leaning towards trading for a travel trailer. It's a shame too because we love the fifth wheel and the way it tows. Your pin weight is higher so it would be best to consider something lighter. Check out Rockwood, Surveyor, and Wildcat. They have a few fifth wheels with 1000lb pin weight and less. Can anyone tell me if 1000 lbs riding over the axle (fifth wheel) is easier on the truck and will cause it to sag less than with 1000 lbs riding over the bumper (TT with weight distributing hitch)? It seems to me that the fifth wheel setup would be better if weights are even close to being even.

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I've been considering towing our 29 foot Keystone with the Tundra. It weighs 8600 lbs and the pin weight is 1480. I KNOW we'd be over weight by about 300-400lbs with the family so I haven't towed it yet. It does seem like others are doing it and it would probably be fine for shorter trips but I'm leaning towards trading for a travel trailer. It's a shame too because we love the fifth wheel and the way it tows. Your pin weight is higher so it would be best to consider something lighter. Check out Rockwood, Surveyor, and Wildcat. They have a few fifth wheels with 1000lb pin weight and less. Can anyone tell me if 1000 lbs riding over the axle (fifth wheel) is easier on the truck and will cause it to sag less than with 1000 lbs riding over the bumper (TT with weight distributing hitch)? It seems to me that the fifth wheel setup would be better if weights are even close to being even.
The truck will sag less with the 5er due to the fact that the 1000lbs is distributed to the front axle's as well. Yes, a properly set up WDH will almost do the same thing. But 1000lbs on the bumper is a lot of weight.
On my pic, that horse trailer has 900lbs pin. The truck is in a hole, so it looks more squated than on flat ground.

If i had your trailer, i wouldn't go to a TT. But that's just me. Nothing that a set of airbags can't fix, if you need them. Why worry about 3-400lbs?
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Default Re: 5th wheel towing limit

I have a 5.7L DC with std bed.

Any opinions on whether I can pull this safely?

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Once I add me, my wife, and 9 year old daughter, I think I max out on the 1600 lb payolad capacity, since the hitch weight (dry) is 1100 lbs. Is this correct?

Thanks for any input!

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I have a 5.7L DC with std bed.

Any opinions on whether I can pull this safely?

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Once I add me, my wife, and 9 year old daughter, I think I max out on the 1600 lb payolad capacity, since the hitch weight (dry) is 1100 lbs. Is this correct?

Thanks for any input!

Mark
Not a problem Mark.

Maybe max on the GVWR. But look at what the truck can actually handle (GAWR--8150lbs.).
My trailer is very similiar to this one, but mine's slightly heavier by 300lbs & 60lbs pin. When i'm loaded with water, airbags would be nice.
How much do they want for that trailer? I paid $19k for mine last year.

Nice configuration i must say.
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Default Re: 5th wheel towing limit

Thanks for your reply.

I don't have a price yet. Unfortunately I can't find a delaer here is So Cal. I can go to No Cal, but warranty issues become a problem - Tough to travel 600-700 miles to have issues dealt with.

My wife likes the 5th wheels and wants bunks for my daughter and her friend. There are plenty of TT with bunks but they are SO long, 30 or 31 feet - I am concerned about being able to manuver around with a TT. Plus, the campgrounds I can park a long TT, plus the truck may be limited.

If I HAD to go with a TT, what would you consider the max specs to be for length, weight, tongue, etc?

We currently have a Class A, but being stuck at the CG w/o a "get around" vehicle has become a problem. So this is why we want a trailer - either 5th or TT.

Thanks again.

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Thanks for your reply.

I don't have a price yet. Unfortunately I can't find a delaer here is So Cal. I can go to No Cal, but warranty issues become a problem - Tough to travel 600-700 miles to have issues dealt with.

My wife likes the 5th wheels and wants bunks for my daughter and her friend. There are plenty of TT with bunks but they are SO long, 30 or 31 feet - I am concerned about being able to manuver around with a TT. Plus, the campgrounds I can park a long TT, plus the truck may be limited.

If I HAD to go with a TT, what would you consider the max specs to be for length, weight, tongue, etc?

We currently have a Class A, but being stuck at the CG w/o a "get around" vehicle has become a problem. So this is why we want a trailer - either 5th or TT.

Thanks again.

Mark

Someone come up with some specs on a TT in another thread. I think it was max length of 30.5' for the DC. IMO, that's a little long for a TT.
I use to own a 23' Terry TT that towed very well, i even towed it with my 98 tacoma. But my brother then bought another brand 25' that didn't tow too well. I know there's some that tow better than others. But comparing to a 5er, they are not as enjoyable to pull. You MUST slow down when going down hills or you could lose it. With A 5er, there's not much to worry about with swaying or being pushed off the road by a crosswind.
Because you're putting some of that weight in the truck (1200lbs). So now your rig weighs more than the trailer. Which makes it safer to pull, and don't push the truck around.
And what's nice about the 5er is if you need more space, you can have a hitch put on the trailer for a carry-all or even a small trailer. Works great.

I wouldn't go over 27' & 7500lbs on a TT IMHO. And ideally, hitch weight should be 750lbs minimum on that.
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Default Re: 5th wheel towing limit

Englishtundra - what brand/model fifth wheel are you looking at - 35 foot with that low weight seems rather unusual??????
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Just purchased the Forest River Wildcat 32qbbs 2mos ago. No probs. Tows much better than the 33' TT. Go with the 5er. Need helper springs or bags.
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I have a crewmax. With the short bed, can I pull a 5th wheel?
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I have a crewmax. With the short bed, can I pull a 5th wheel?
Yes, for the right price, with the right equipment...
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