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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

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If you got stuck with 6.1 it is sort of like buying a stale donut when the baker behind the counter knows full well that he has a rack of hot donuts fresh from the oven which he is going to put out on the shelf as soon as you leave the store.
I have bought stale donuts before, and made the choice to just not buy from that place again. We can do the same with Toyota, but I doubt we will.

No matter how you slice it, they are charging was too much for the upgrade, and that is one of the reasons why the nav option does not hold it's resale value in the used market. There are way too many reasonably priced handheld versions that have cheap or free map upgrades. If the map updates were better and more easily obtained at a reasonable price, more people would get the factory navs. because of this the factory nav is not a financially smart option. I got it for convienence.

I still believe that those who think they are due a free upgrade don't understand the concept that they bought what was current when they bought it. Toyota never told them that any future upgrades would be free for a certain time period. If you were told otherwise, then you have a beef with the dealer. And if you knew 7.1 was out and got 6.1, then you should have negotiated the new disk with the purchase. I had considered refusing my truck if it did not have the 7.1, but decided to just take what I was given before I knew it had the 7.1 version. I bought a new cannon digital camera recently. It was a 6.0 megapixle camera, and then a month latter their 7.something camera was released for the same price I paid. Do i think Cannon should give me the better camera for free since I bought the other one just before the new one was released? if Toyota decides to up the horsepower of our trucks as a result of a compeeting manufacturer bettering their numbers by just changing the engine calibration, do we deserve that engine recalibration for free?

It sucks that they don't give free upgrades or at least an "at cost" upgrade for a short time period, but that is their choice. They have decided it is better for people to pirate copies and just focus on new car sales than the parts department.

And I could be upset that I got stuck with the 6.1 since my camry came with that and it was less than 1 year old when the 7.1 was released. Heck those that bought the early '07 camrys got stuck with 5.1. Now they have a car that is only one model year old, and have nav data that is three versions back. They should really be PO'd. In the end, I paid over $40,000 for the 7.1 disk, so the $300 fee looks really good in comparison.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

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I paid over $40,000 for the 7.1 disk, so the $300 fee looks really good in comparison.
Yes, but your $40,000 6.1 nav DVD comes wrapped in a truck. The $300 7.1 nav DVD comes in a jewel box.

Has anyone even tried to buy the 7.1 DVD? It doesn't sound like the dealers really stock them.
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Yes, but your $40,000 6.1 nav DVD comes wrapped in a truck. The $300 7.1 nav DVD comes in a jewel box.

Has anyone even tried to buy the 7.1 DVD? It doesn't sound like the dealers really stock them.
I'm trying to buy now...got them to come down to $200...dealer has told me 7.1 disc will not be available for the dealer to order until end of Oct.!
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

Anybody have the part number for the 7.1 nav dvd??
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DVD Navigation Map
North America U 32 D
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Do you still have the 7.1 disc?
No, I gave it back. I am not paying $200-$300 for an update which should have been free and is worth $50 at most.
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

I just ordered the 7.1 version Nav DVD for my 07 Tundra Dbl Cab Limited. List price is $268.75; net $250.00. Will let you know the changes I note.
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

Did you notice any changes? What I'm hoping on is more up to date local POI data.

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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

Nope, the data is still out of date.

I tried to find a petstore that I knew was located in a general area, and it was not on the nav disk. This is a store that was 8 - 10 years old.
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

So, from the previous thread can I assume you can put in the 7.1 NAV DVD and if you decide to go back to 6.1 it will work? I would like to "try" 7.1 and see if it is worth the money and since I just purchased my T4R two week ago now would be the time to talk to my sales rep about it. I have read once you go to 7.1 you can't go back to 6.1 because it wont even work. That makes sense that you can upgrade your firmware with the disc, but the data portion should still work if the DVD is of the same vintage (such as Gen 5).
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

When you put the 7.1 disk in the nav, it will load the new software. Then you can put the old 6.1 or 5.1 or whatever version you have back in. You will then have the 7.1 software or operating system, but the old map data which seems very similar to the new map data.

But if you loose power to the radio for more than about 5 seconds, it will force a reload of the operating system software, and you will be back to whatever version is in the nav at the time of the power loss. (IE, if you want to go back to the old version, then pull the radio fuse for a few seconds.)
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

The following is from a post over at greenhybrids.com

"You could try the NavTeq site.
http://mapreporter.navteq.com/dur-we...ER&language=en

You can enter an address, or just search around. Not 100% sure just because you see it on this site, it means it's on the disc though."

So this might be a good place to go and see if the 7.1 upgrade is worth it to you if you are looking for updated maps.
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

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When you put the 7.1 disk in the nav, it will load the new software. Then you can put the old 6.1 or 5.1 or whatever version you have back in. You will then have the 7.1 software or operating system, but the old map data which seems very similar to the new map data.

But if you loose power to the radio for more than about 5 seconds, it will force a reload of the operating system software, and you will be back to whatever version is in the nav at the time of the power loss. (IE, if you want to go back to the old version, then pull the radio fuse for a few seconds.)
Interesting...that is very good to know...
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Default Re: Evaluation of new NAV firmware DVD version 7.1

did your tundra come with the NAV or did you install it after buying your Tundra?
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