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TundraGeneral discussion forum for the 2007 and later Toyota Tundra.
This is a discussion thread titled "Toyota Tailgate Facts", within the Tundra forum, part of the Truck Forums category.
Why would they sell a product that allows you to put extra items onto the tailgate while it is down and then recommend that you dont drive with it down.
Then also have weight limits on the tailgate.
And not post those weight limits.
Of course we know why they don't post weight limits, because they know posting a whimpy value would invite criticism so they chose to let the consumer discover this crucial flaw. This is not a new issue to Toyota as the Tacoma has had this problem a few years ago. What could they be saving but a few bucks per truck? Well it will cost them far more now. When Toyota loses its perception of quality, it loses its edge in the marketplace.
I really don't think that Toyota would purposly try to hold back that info so that they are not badmouthed. I think it was something that they just didn't put enough engineering thought into. Sure, it sucks, but they will make it right - I'm sure.
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Amen. If there is any hope for us Tundra owners its the importance of this truck and the publicity we have now. Unfortunately for the Tacoma owners Toyota was hoping this would fade into history. Perhaps our efforts will add fuel to their fire.
I have (2) Tacomas, an '05 and '08, both 4.0L 6 spds. The squeaky clutch pedal of the '05 carried right over three years into the '08 model. So did the weak 3 leaf rear springs, and probably the weak tailgate but my Suzuki Quadrunner 500 won't fit in the bed anyway. So no, Toyota leaves a lot of known deficiencies unaddressed.
You can add my voice to those who would say the Toyota quality reputation is over rated. Some will say, "I got 200,000+ miles from my last Toyota" but I have done the same thing from domestics, no big deal. I don't keep them as long now, so resale value is the more important factor for me. As long as the Toyota zealots keep trumpeting the brand, my resale equity is safe.
Just because I'm bluntly opinionated (and honest) about that, doesn't mean I don't like Toyotas. I certainly do.
Wow, that is thin. I heard mine creaking and making noise when I jumped up on it. I mean I'm 235lbs but I've been on alot of tail gates and they all held me just fine.
Of course we know why they don't post weight limits, because they know posting a whimpy value would invite criticism so they chose to let the consumer discover this crucial flaw.
Anyone know what F-150 tailgate load limit on the tailgate is? Only thing I could find was on page 127 of the owner's manual in the bed extender section. Says 100lbs...not much .
"The bed extender may be used to
secure a load of up to 100 lb.
(46 kg) on the tailgate.
The bed extender should always
be kept in the stowed position with the tailgate closed when not
in use."
Remember, gauge thickness is not necessarily a measure of strength. This is just a poor design, lacking in reinforcement and spot welds in critical areas. With the weak tailgate being a given, the logical thing to do is to find a way to prevent damage, while still being able to load your toys. It was easy to google this product for those of you who are using ramps for ATVs, dirtbikes, mowers etc. - either buy or fabricate something like this :
Just the fact that such a product exists indicates to me that this is not a problem unique to Tundra.
I really wish some of you would quit bashing a great [not perfect] truck.Don't you realize that one day you will be trading your truck and it won't be worth jacks#%t if you guys keep whining about every little shortcoming ? JMO - Gordon
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Anyone know what F-150 tailgate load limit on the tailgate is?
Can't say but my F-250 is five times the tailgate as my Tundra's especially in design strength-wise. I'm right in the middle of some bumper work on my Ford and tried to measure the tailgate sheet metal thickness the other day but all I have are slide rule type (not C clamp type) digital calipers and there's not enough of a flat exposed area to get a proper measurement with them.
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Just the fact that such a product exists indicates to me that this is not a problem unique to Tundra.
How does that product enter into the equation? Looks like you still have to drive over the tailgate, all it does is support the ramps.
Frank,
It is a shame that your excellent thread has been hijacked and some are trying to turn it into a pissing contest! Though some of the comments are laughable; metrictundras " common cents" had me rolling, the issue and intent of your thread has great value to those with the tailgate failures.
I disagree completely with the "let's wait and see what Toyota does" attitude of some of the riders. LOL. I guarantee you that if I had a tailgate problem I would want it fixed RIGHT NOW!
So please keep your thread going and writers, please stay on topic. We might need this one day!
BTW metric, unfortunately, many people most certainly do judge your intelligence and education by the words you use, both written and spoken. Just my 2 sense.LOL
How does that product enter into the equation? Looks like you still have to drive over the tailgate, all it does is support the ramps.
If the ramps are on the gate, and the ATV is on the ramps, the entire weight of the ATV is supported by the gate at that time. If the ramps are on that product, then the weight is split between the reciever and the gate, depending where the ATV is, but at no time will 100% of the ATV weight be on the gate.
Great product idea IMO, and judging by the picture, it's been around at lot longer than these new Tundras have been.
If the ramps are on the gate, and the ATV is on the ramps, the entire weight of the ATV is supported by the gate at that time.
Oh yea? Let me get my ATV on my ramps and then have you try to lift the rear of the ramps off the ground. You might want to rethink that one, driving up the ramps even with the front ATV axle on the tailgate, Mother Earth is still supporting a good part of the load.
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