This was the exact reason I did not buy a 2007 Tundra, I personally still feel the Silverado is a better truck than the Tundra but, each to his own!
kunal
I respect your opinion, but your WRONG!
Somebody please LOCK this thread!
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2007 Tundra 5.7 CM SR5 TRD PC Stage I, Nitto tgrapplers 325/60/20s, 20" XD Hoss, dual flowmaster 40s, volant,carriage works, color keyed handles & mirrors, debadged,tint, carbon fiber.
2007 Tundra 5.7 DC SR5 TRD Revtek 2.5", 18" Ultra goliaths, 33" Toyo a/ts, airaid, chrome handles, DG grill, tint.
On a slightly unrelated note, but a jab at Toyota nonetheless, I was looking at the build and price section of Toyota's website and noticed there are very few option packages available for the Tundra now. I can't even build a truck close to how I want it, WTF?! Are they just trying to chase off buyers? I can't even configure an SR5 with the TRD off road, or upgraded audio, or tow mirrors, or a long bed!
So I wait for the teething problems to get worked out (which I am sure they will be) and now Toyota won't make the truck I would buy. This is very disappointing.
Re: CR Rates New Tundra V8 4x4 Reliability Well Below Average
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Wrong again, I'd be willing to bet that most tundra owners are previous toyota owners. 100,000 big 3 test drivers switched to the toyota, LMAO.
Wrong again! There was a Dodge 2500 w/ a Cummins parked in their used lot (MINE) right next to all the Chevys and Fords that they took in on trade. Heck today I even saw a 2007 Silverado w/ 6000 miles on it parked at the street front of Toyotas used car lot today, and whats even funnier is that the Toyota dealership is literally across the road from the Chevy house. They must love that. 2007 was in big colored numbers so you couldn't miss it.
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Wrong again! There was a Dodge 2500 w/ a Cummins parked in their used lot (MINE) right next to all the Chevys and Fords that they took in on trade. Heck today I even saw a 2007 Silverado w/ 6000 miles on it parked at the street front of Toyotas used car lot today, and whats even funnier is that the Toyota dealership is literally across the road from the Chevy house. They must love that. 2007 was in big colored numbers so you couldn't miss it.
Dude, you've lost it. Do you honestly think that a majority of 07 Tundra owners are ex-big 3 owners who jumped ship? LMAO! I pass big 3 dealerships all the time with Toyotas for sale on the used lot, is that because people came there to unload them on a trade as well? You can't make any kind of assumption from what a used car lot has out there for sale.
I'd be willing to bet that 40% of Tundra owners are previous Toyota truck owners, another 30% have never owned a truck before. Probably 30% owned another brand of truck with probably 20% of that being domestic.
Face the facts, when a vast majority of buyers buy a new truck, they buy domestic over a toyota. Gm outsells toyota in the truck dept nearly 5 to 1. You couldn't pay me to trade my Dodge Cummins for a Tundra, (my 4runner maybe).. Why would I? I have more power, better mpg, more options, a longer warranty and better resale.
Re: CR Rates New Tundra V8 4x4 Reliability Well Below Average
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Amazing how many people have faith that Toyota will "make right" any problem they encounter. Does anyone have any evidence to support this?
Just posted a thread on it.
Stopped by to get "on record" with my Tranny having some rumble issues and LITTERALLY (and I do mean litterally) 30 seconds into my explaining the problem, the service manager said "We'll take care of it" and instructed the service writer to replace the transmission and get me a loaner in the meantime.
This thread is full of *non-Tundra owning*, off-topic, ignorant posters. Please return to the GM/Nissan boards! I never intended my comments on full-time 4WD to be used as ammo for these guys.
Shall we discuss the advantages of the Tundra over the competition? Like the engine, transmission, standard air bags, Toyota reputation, towing capability, higher made-in-USA content...
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I can make any assumption I want especially informed assumptions. I worked at this Toyota Dealership and I know people who work at this Toyota dealership now. Ours does not buy used vehicles at auction like in the lower 48. They also dont keep older rigs at all, they get wholesaled immediately. Whats on the lot is what has come in on trade, thats how it works at the dealership in my garage.
You are probably close about the % of loyal repeat Toyota owners but this is the first time that Toyota has put out a real truck in the 1/2 ton market and I know for a fact that many of the new Tundra owners also test drove GM's Fords and Dodges before settling on the Tundra and thats where you and your GM buddy slim keep deciding to spin my statements about 100,000 BIG 3 owners switching to toyota, which is not what I said. I was referring to the number of people that test drove other 1/2 ton trucks made by the Big 3 before settling on the Tundra.
Your statement about the vast majority of truck buyers buying domestic when buying a truck (assuming your talking about 1/2 tons since Toyota doesn't make the big trucks 3/4 and 1 tns) that trend is probably correct as well for past years but then again how many years has Toyota been making a real 1/2 ton truck.....less than 1 ??? You can spin everybody's statements on thsi forum but your efforts are in vane in convincing me of chit. As for the Dodge, ho wmany miles do you have and what kind of work do you even do with it? Mne had 110,000 miles and this box I am typing in isn't big enough to type all the work that was done to my Dodge. Complete front end suspension rebuidls every 30,000 miles, seals leaking after each and eveyr winter, u-joints breaking, carrier bearing failure, steering gear boxes replaced every 50,000 miles, P/S hoses that leaked, oil pan gaskets, I mean how much money do you put into a truck as it begins to disintegrate on you. The Dodge with a Cummins in my opinion is the best of the Big 3 for real HD use but that does not come without a price over time. I have just a little xperience using HD trucks for what they were designed to do, that I can assure you. Heres a few pics of my Dodges that I have owned and what I did with them.
Trailer is 9,000 lbs empty, you do the math on the weight of the vehicles.
This one is just 30 miles south of Prudoe Bay on the northern tip of Alaska
So understand that I know very well what is entailed in owning a Dodge 2500 or 3500 truck with a Cummins , whether its for a daily driver or for the business that feeds my family. I've gone back to Toyotas and I am not looking back.
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This thread is full of *non-Tundra owning*, off-topic, ignorant posters. Please return to the GM/Nissan boards! I never intended my comments on full-time 4WD to be used as ammo for these guys.
Shall we discuss the advantages of the Tundra over the competition? Like the engine, transmission, standard air bags, Toyota reputation, towing capability, higher made-in-USA content...
A reputation is meaningless if the product fails to live up to the expectations. If you consider a reputation to be a real tangible advantage I would say the marketing types have really brain washed you.
Re: CR Rates New Tundra V8 4x4 Reliability Well Below Average
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Originally Posted by slice
Gm outsells toyota in the truck dept nearly 5 to 1.
While your statement is true, you sound like a typical car saleman. If you really want to look at numbers head to head then you would need to compare silverado numbers to tundra numbers and sierra numbers to tundra numbers. While tundra still has less sales the numbers are a little closer. The only reason that GM outsells tundra by such a big margin is due to the fact that it has twice as many dealerships selling a gm product it has both a chevy and gmc dealership in the town that competes with only one toyota dealership. This goes on all accross the nation and gm acts like it has really accomplished something.
My gm threw a rod at 75,000 miles, rebuilt the engine, and then it blew a transmission at 84,000 miles. I had followed the exact maintnance schedule set forth by the GM manual. So don't you dare talk to me about reliability or reputation. This tundra may not be as reliable as past toyota's but it won't dare be as S*****y as your damn GM. That said I hope you enjoy it and know a good mechanic.
A reputation is meaningless if the product fails to live up to the expectations. If you consider a reputation to be a real tangible advantage I would say the marketing types have really brain washed you.
I disagree. Toyota still has more vehicles in the top reliability rankings than any other make -- Consumer Reports and JD Power.
Plus the simple fact is Toyotas have higher resale values than their competition. PERIOD.
This is the Toyota reputation. We just have a small chink in the armor now with respect to the Tundra and V6 Camry.
If you go ahead and figure that the analysis done here by CR is azz backwards and totally inaccurate (which is what I am convinced of) then the Tundra is the #1 Truck scored in this chart, that can be said hands down. Theres not any evidence to date available that would lead anyone to believe that the 4WD Tundra is not reliable and the 2WD is, it just doesn't work that way unless the results are screwed up.
If you go ahead and figure that the analysis done here by CR is azz backwards and totally inaccurate (which is what I am convinced of) then the Tundra is the #1 Truck scored in this chart, that can be said hands down. Theres not any evidence to date available that would lead anyone to believe that the 4WD Tundra is not reliable and the 2WD is, it just doesn't work that way unless the results are screwed up.
I realize you're upset like me -- but for the last time -- the survey found more 4WD vehicles with problems than 2WD -- this doesn't mean there's a direct correlation!
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