You are absolutely right. They aren't. The Ridgeline is a mid-sized truck, and the Tundra is a FULL SIZED truck. That is why in my comparisons I mention the Tacoma more then the Tundra or other full sized trucks unless explaining the DIFFERENCES.
If your new Crewmax or Dcab SB Tundra has similar bed bounce or knock-the-cell-phone-out-of-your-hand behavior as srapf experienced, and you can't get rid of it (curious, even with added weight), you might want to give a pair of Sulastic spring shackles a try. They were to have been unveiled at SEMA in Las Vegas this past week but I don't know if they did it or not but I just emailed them for an update and will report back.
Ultimately you might want to trade your shorter-bed Tundra in on a Long Bed Tundra DCab. It's a whole different ball game with the frame stretch and commensurate wheel base increase (i.e. = natural frequencies are shifted out of normal operating range). No harmonics hit the long bed. I've got 19,000 miles on mine without a hop.
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Well, then we'd better get together and educate Honda, IIHS, EPA, and other automotive regulatory groups to this grievous error! Apparently they have NO idea as to the error and need to be told it isn't a truck, cannot tow, cannot hold anything in its bed nor can it secure things in its revolutionary trunk. We really need to tell them about that error, and that Honda LIED to them about it being a truck.
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Well, then we'd better get together and educate Honda, IIHS, EPA, and other automotive regulatory groups to this grievous error! Apparently they have NO idea as to the error and need to be told it isn't a truck, cannot tow, cannot hold anything in its bed nor can it secure things in its revolutionary trunk. We really need to tell them about that error, and that Honda LIED to them about it being a truck.
IIRC, a Subaru Outback is truck, according to DOT/NHTSA, as if that means anything.
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1996 Lexus LX450, 129k, front/rear factory locking differentials, Cooper STT 285s, OME 850/863 suspension lift, CDL/Pin 7, 30qt freezer, 2@aux fuse blocks, aux powerpoint, 850w inverter
1998 Lexus LX470, 139k- SOLD
1993 Land Cruiser, 198k- SOLD
I wish we had gotten together a month ago. I just went the other way: traded my Ridgeline in for a Tundra DC Limited. I saw a Tundra at a radio install shop and told my wife about it. She said get it. I said I was happy with the RL. She said she hates the RL. I always have liked large trucks so I went ahead and traded it. The RL is a nice truck though. And the two way tailgate is great. I think I used it more as a door than I did as a tailgate.
Are you aware that the trunk has a drain which gives you the ability to use it as a cooler? Just dump in lots of ice and your drinks of choice. Some people put styrafoam boards in to help with insulation.
You have a good truck with a great ride. Enjoy it.
For what it's worth, I would never say the Ridge is a truck! That just does not pass the smell test! It's a TRUCK-ET! If trucks were separated into male and female, well, the RIDGE would definitely be a girl! Nobody is going to say "Man! That is one bad azz truck you got there!". I think it looks like a TRANSFORMER! Transformer, a MINI-VAN in disguise!
"I could say my Tundra is an SUV with a bed -- it's just a Sequoia with a bed, right? "
The original Sequoia was based on the Gen 1 Tundra, not the other way around. The Sequoia is a Tundra with a big trunk, low range and a locking differential, in 4x4 versions of course. The Ridgeline does not offer a low range or a locking differential.
If I am not mistaken, the 2wd version of the Ridgeline is FWD.......
This may be the biggest "apples v oranges" argument I've read concerning 2 vehicles. Other than a open bed, the Tundra and the Ridgeline could not possibly be more different.
I have owned a 2000 Durango, 2003 expedition(Garbage, see bilzex-edmunds), 2003 Sequoia(lease) 2007 FJ(too small, great tow vehicle 5K) an now a Crewmax.
Durango and Crewmax yank(ed) my boat(4600lbs) and family around like it was'nt there.
4.7 Seq,. worked at it but it has been the most comfortable ride I have had. 5.7 tundra gets better mileage towing and around town.
FJ towed it- 6% grade no problem.
Felt the Ridgeline FWD was not stout enough, but it would have got the nod before the FJ and the Tundra as I only tow the boat a few times year.
For what it's worth, I would never say the Ridge is a truck! That just does not pass the smell test! It's a TRUCK-ET! If trucks were separated into male and female, well, the RIDGE would definitely be a girl! Nobody is going to say "Man! That is one bad azz truck you got there!". I think it looks like a TRANSFORMER! Transformer, a MINI-VAN in disguise!
oh yea, I'm gonna get flamed!
LOL at the TRANSFORMER comment! Wow, you hit the Ridgeline's description on the head. It can transform from the comfortable people hauler, to the Home Depot hauler, to the tailgate party machine, and back again. I guess it is what we call in the Transformers fanbase a multi-changer. The only thing it is missing is robot mode. Oh, I'm also a Transformers fan.
The problem with the Ridgeline is many people first and foremost make fun of it for being a fullsized truck. It is not, it is a mid sized truck at best. It is one, despite some of the BY DESIGN traits Honda gave it to be unique and more competitive amongst its "peers," the mid-sized trucks. If there ever was an El Camino of new vehicles it would have to be that UGLY vehicle at SEMA this year under the name of LUV. Or the now discontinued Subaru Baja. They stopped production because of low sales.
Suprisingly, although it is a small niche, the Ridgeline hits a truck market that some competitors such as Chevy and Mercedes want to capitalize on. The people who haul people more then cargo more often, yet want a pickup bed for convenience. The trunk is one of the Ridgeline's unique traits, and is patented, but that doesn't mean someone won't improve upon it. Who knows? Maybe we'll see a two tiered bed with the second featuring a sliding tray, and loading ramp for the upper tier?
I think what really stinks is your gross misinformation. Your opinion is your own, and I'm not going to flame you or say anything against it. I just have a problem with your lack of a factual argument. Come on over to the Ridgeline forums that you quoted and you'll get a better perspective. Here is an example:
Even though it is a small margin, I think you can see through those two threads that MORE people (per se) are disatisfied and why with their Tundra. Sure, both are recommended, and I would recommend them too. But, think of it like this. There have been few and far between transmission failures with the Ridgeline then with the new Tundra, AND the Ridgeline's tailgate doesn't BUCKLE under weight unlike the new Tundra's.
And ALL trucks nowadays can STINK with their their catalytic converters burning off waste products. It is a mater of bad gas. I've had it in my Tundra, Ridgeline, my Mom's Toyota Camry and other vehicles. To use that as an argument point is ridiculous. Please, let's stick with other more original valid points like:
Transverse mounted engine
AWD to 4WD mode (has an even power mode, but NO low mode)
Four-wheel independent suspension (BUT how could they not have had the trunk without it?)
247HP V6 engine. ONLY engine option
Weird button placement. Cruise control ON switch UNDER dash? WTF?
1400 pound capacity IN BED TOTAL! "ON" bed it is 1100 pounds, in the trunk 300.
Try some of those as argument points for a change instead of the old throw-your-hands-up tactic of "OH, IT'S NOT A TRUKK! IT'S A BITCH HAULIN' MOBILE." THAT argument is so far from original it isn't even funny.
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Good luck with the ridgeline, enjoy the Honda "road feel"
as they call it in their terms.
I drove one and I personally couldn't stand it.
I would have purchased a Chevy myself, but I am sticking with my Tundra, I am addicted to the power!
Sorry but if the Rigdeline, Avalanche, Escallade, SportTrack are trucks then so are the El Camino, Ranchero and............the Brat!
I say NO SIR, NO SIR!
The first three cannot remove their "beds" to be replaced and the SportTrack's bed is a joke for hauling all but groceries. They are sport utility vehicles. The full sized Bronco of the 80's 90's with the removable top is recognized as a sport ute and when you removed the top it had MUCH more room then any of the so called "trucks" listed.
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