We used to bolt elevator weights under our truck beds years ago to improve the ride. They Willybar looks like exactly the same concept but with a nicer finish at a higher price.
No bed bounce issues for me in a year and a half but I'm a 4x4 DCab Longbed so maybe that makes a difference.
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Well I called Toyota Customer Care today to complain about the bed bounce because I'm starting to get headaches during my 10 mile commute to work and home and my back is starting to ache as well because of the aftershock effect of the rear frame/suspension. I sat on hold for a while, then she came back and said that there was no fix now, and none in the foreseeable future either. I don't know what else to do. I've tried just about every remedy recommended on this forum and none have really made that much of a difference. Oh how I miss my 2005 4Runner...
If you plan on keeping the truck I would suggest getting the TRD suspension put on. My TRD has had 0 issues both before and after my bed cap was put on.
A possible quick fix if you haven't tried it yet is to just add the TRD rear sway bar. It improved the ride quality even on my TRD.
If you plan on keeping the truck I would suggest getting the TRD suspension put on. My TRD has had 0 issues both before and after my bed cap was put on.
A possible quick fix if you haven't tried it yet is to just add the TRD rear sway bar. It improved the ride quality even on my TRD.
I already installed the TRD rear sway bar and it helped the handling a LOT. But the ride quality wasn't changed. I haven't modified the suspension yet, but I think that'll be my next step. I have a friend that does metal fabrication, welding, and suspension work and he's very interested in finding a fix for this. We'll see. It's back to the drawing board.
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2008 Tundra 5.7 DC XSP w/20" JTI wheels
Well I called Toyota Customer Care today to complain about the bed bounce because I'm starting to get headaches during my 10 mile commute to work and home and my back is starting to ache as well because of the aftershock effect of the rear frame/suspension. I sat on hold for a while, then she came back and said that there was no fix now, and none in the foreseeable future either. I don't know what else to do. I've tried just about every remedy recommended on this forum and none have really made that much of a difference. Oh how I miss my 2005 4Runner...
Call Dateline. I can totally see a piece by them on bed bounce. Put one of their smart *** reporters in the back seat, find some expansion joint freeway, and then rattle his freakin' teeth right out of his head.
Funny how after it aired Toyota would probably have a fix within days, not "none in the forseeable future". What do you have to loose?? Make a video and send it to them. Maybe you could get on TV.
Doesn't it make you mad Derek that they actually said and I quote "there was no fix now, and none in the foreseeable future either" That statement alone seems to be an admittance of guilt on their part that they are aware there is an issue yet refuse to fix it. We need a class action lawsuit against them.
Here's my theory on why weight makes a difference.. The springs in any truck have many considerations when a manufacturer designs it.. I'm assuming at the very least they pick out rear leaf spring that matches the weight of the truck it needs to support plus it's hauling/towing capabilities. The Tundra's rear leaf spring is poorly matched when it comes to supporting just it's own weight.. It's way too stiff (that's what she said). When you throw 200 or 300lbs in the bed, it's at that point the springs are properly matched to give you a decent ride. Hope that makes sense. Basically what I'm saying is. If our truck were naively 2 or 300lbs heavier the springs we have now would probably be fine and no more bed bounce. However I think the springs are rated a few hundred lbs too stiff so running an emtpy bed is gonna make the ride horrible as we already know.
Doesn't it make you mad Derek that they actually said and I quote "there was no fix now, and none in the foreseeable future either" That statement alone seems to be an admittance of guilt on their part that they are aware there is an issue yet refuse to fix it. We need a class action lawsuit against them.
Here's my theory on why weight makes a difference.. The springs in any truck have many considerations when a manufacturer designs it.. I'm assuming at the very least they pick out rear leaf spring that matches the weight of the truck it needs to support plus it's hauling/towing capabilities. The Tundra's rear leaf spring is poorly matched when it comes to supporting just it's own weight.. It's way too stiff (that's what she said). When you throw 200 or 300lbs in the bed, it's at that point the springs are properly matched to give you a decent ride. Hope that makes sense. Basically what I'm saying is. If our truck were naively 2 or 300lbs heavier the springs we have now would probably be fine and no more bed bounce. However I think the springs are rated a few hundred lbs too stiff so running an emtpy bed is gonna make the ride horrible as we already know.
I replaced my stock springs with softer ones and they do make a big difference in ride quality. But of course, the drawback is that the payload capacity is very much reduced. One more thing to consider is to entirely modify the leaf spring mounts, leaf spring length, arc, etc. So totally redesign the rear suspension.
With softer springs, the rear is lowered an inch and a half from stock and looking at the springs underneath, they're almost straight now. I added 250 lbs of gravel bags next to the tailgate and that almost leveled the truck. But the ride was awesome.
If anybody have access to 3/4 ton trucks, measure their leaf springs' length and compare them with the Tundra. Theirs are probably longer and have more leaves than ours.
I went to the Sand Sports Super Show in September and talked to the guys at Icon Suspension Dynamics (formerly Donahoe) and was told they were releasing rear shocks that eliminate the bed bounce issue. Whether they work or not I don't know... don't have 'em.
Which brings me to my next point... I drove up to the show on Friday night (up the 5 to Costa Mesa) and hit some very interesting spans of road that made the bed bounce a bit (I've noticed the bed move on any bumpy road since the day I bought it) and thought about all the complaints made here. On Sunday, I rode up in my brothers' 2004 Chevy Crew Cab Dually Duramax... holy crap people! If you think the Tundra bed bounce is bad, go ride in a longbed Duramax... I thought I was going to throw up.
It's all about spring rates. Trucks are made to haul weight. If you don't want a truck that rides like a truck, go buy a car... it's as simple as that. My last Tundra ('06 Double cab) didn't ride much better (definitely did not tow nearly as well) and it was a smaller truck. This new Tundra was built to handle more weight than the last so... common sense would tell me... it's going to ride like a big truck.
Well, I've got a 2008 DC 4x4 SR5 TRD with the 5.7L. I haven't experienced any of this bed bounce yet, I hope I don't in the future. I've only got 1000 miles on it, and so far I love this truck. Just my .02.
I have 11K miles on my 08 CrewMax TRD and have never experienced bed bounce either on the highway or on gravel / dirt roads, so maybe the different valved TRD shocks help?
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I have 11K miles on my 08 CrewMax TRD and have never experienced bed bounce either on the highway or on gravel / dirt roads, so maybe the different valved TRD shocks help?
Try to go to Southern California area.... TRD or not... bed bounce!
I have TRD package on my crewmax.... still bounce. Well... with the camper on... less bounce. I do have TRD sway bar on my truck.
Like Toy Collector said... that's the nature of the truck... I guess!
Last time I carried few thousand pounds of rocks + boulders.... the truck look really cool.... like a low-rider.... NO BED BOUNCE.... but I get only 8 miles per gallon!
And here is the official word from Toyota after I sent them an email:
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Derek,
Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
We apologize for your dissatisfaction with the bouncing concern with your Tundra.
There are no Special Service Campaigns (recalls) or Technical Service Bulletins for a bed bouncing concern with the 2008 Tundra.
The current generation Tundra is designed to accomodate large payloads and to provide heavy towing capability. Therefore, some ride quality will be sacrificed.
The suspension system in the Tundra has to be robust enough to handle the payload and towing capabilities of the vehicle. We are aware of the "choppy" ride issue on certain road surfaces. However, we believe the vehicle is operating as designed.
If you believe your vehicle is not operating properly, we recommend contacting the Customer Relations Manager at your local Toyota dealership where your vehicle can receive expert service from Toyota technicians. Each Toyota dealership has, on site, a Customer Relations Manager to oversee the various operations and address any concerns a customer may have.
Toyota dealership technicians are specialized in the diagnosis and repair of Toyota vehicles. They are provided with extensive training and have access to state of the art equipment to help in the accurate diagnosis of your vehicle.
We appreciate your feedback. It is through communications such as yours that we become aware of the reactions and expectations of our customers and are able to review and improve our products.
Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters under file #200810230960. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us via email or by calling 800-331-4331. We are available from 5 AM to 6 PM, Pacific Time, Monday through Friday and from 7 AM to 4 PM, Pacific Time, on Saturdays.
Michael Cotterell
Toyota Customer Experience
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2008 Tundra 5.7 DC XSP w/20" JTI wheels
The current generation Tundra is designed to accomodate large payloads and to provide heavy towing capability. Therefore, some ride quality will be sacrificed.
The suspension system in the Tundra has to be robust enough to handle the payload and towing capabilities of the vehicle. We are aware of the "choppy" ride issue on certain road surfaces. However, we believe the vehicle is operating as designed.
Straight from the horses mouth. It acts like a truck made for towing/hauling big stuff. Nothing to fix or change.
And theyre right
Looks like you guys' "fix" will have to be getting a different truck.
i have rode in f-250's, duramax's etc. they are far more of a work truck than the tundra. they have more payload, more towing power and they do not bounce like the tundra. the tundra is a workhorse for a half ton, but if you think theres nothing wrong with the bounciness, then toyota has you right where they want you. when not fully maxed out with weight, people just want a non brain jarring ride over certain road surfaces..
i have rode in f-250's, duramax's etc. they are far more of a work truck than the tundra. they have more payload, more towing power and they do not bounce like the tundra.
My F250 bounces/jars a lot, more so than my Tundra. The F250 is very stiff in the back stock, so when unloaded its a little more rough on some of the same surfaces (though I have BFG C-T/A's on that truck). Both trucks have the same general behavior, the severity varies. I can tell you right now, theres no way an undladen F250 rides smoother with stock, or close to stock suspension, than a Tundra.
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i have rode in f-250's, duramax's etc. they are far more of a work truck than the tundra. they have more payload, more towing power and they do not bounce like the tundra. the tundra is a workhorse for a half ton, but if you think theres nothing wrong with the bounciness, then toyota has you right where they want you. when not fully maxed out with weight, people just want a non brain jarring ride over certain road surfaces.
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