My good friend has an '07 f250 crewcab 4x4 long bed and the ride in that truck is way worse than mine ever was. He carries alot of weight for work but when its not loaded down it rides really stiff. But that is just a very stiff ride. He does get the "shaker cab" once in a while like my tundra but its only limited to certain areas and mine will do it on every pot hole, man hole cover, uneven surface changes, and speed bumps etc. I have calmed it down a lot but still shows its ugly face once in a while. Normally a truck being of any make, model, 2wd or 4wd has some type of bed wiggle but the Tundra has a fisical shake that shakes everything in the cab. I think that is the main complaint in this thread.
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My F250 bounces/jars a lot, more so than my Tundra. The F250 is very stiff in the back stock, so when unloaded its a little more rough on some of the same surfaces (though I have BFG C-T/A's on that truck). Both trucks have the same general behavior, the severity varies. I can tell you right now, theres no way an undladen F250 rides smoother with stock, or close to stock suspension, than a Tundra.
i am talking about the springy a$$ end on the tundra. the tundra rides great on flat paved roads, but once you hit a sharp bump or pot hole the bed bounces like a 18 wheeler. i have followed 3/4 tons and have watched the bed of those trucks and in no way are the hopping around like the tundras. let your tailgate down on your tundra and put both hands on the tailgate and push down hard real fast and let go and do the same to your ford and the tundra is way more springy.
I have to believe that for the most part these trucks are made the same.. It's not likely one was built so different that it would experience Bed Bounce and others won't. I believe every Tundra has Bed Bounce, it's just the owners may not realize it because of:
A. They have really smooth roads and rarely travel anywhere that has poor road conditions.
B. Use the truck for hauling and or towing equipment all the time, thus the added weight is eliminating any of the effects of bed bounce.
C. The driver is so oblivious to what BB is because he's driven heavy duty trucks his entire life, and that likely had worse BB than the Tundra i.e. Ford F250, etc..
So, you gotta fall under one of these categories above if you think you don't have it.
i have rode in f-250's, duramax's etc. they are far more of a work truck than the tundra. they have more payload, more towing power and they do not bounce like the tundra. the tundra is a workhorse for a half ton, but if you think theres nothing wrong with the bounciness, then toyota has you right where they want you. when not fully maxed out with weight, people just want a non brain jarring ride over certain road surfaces..
My brother has a 2004 Crew Cab Dually and a 1994 Crew Cab Diesel and they both ride way worse than the Tundra ever could on it's worst day.
You're very right... they do not bounce like the Tundra... they bounce TEN TIMES worse than the Tundra.
Like I said before... if you want a better ride... buy a Civic or a mini van... not a truck.
Well, here's something that people could try. Obviously we can see the Tundra is setup stiff, as it was apparently beefed up to handle the capacity better.
Now, most of the comparisons right now are between the Tundra and other 1/2 tons, and it rides much harsher. More bed bounce, which is really the stiffer suspension causing a visual bounce of the bed and a bouncy cab ride. There's a post here not to long ago where someone did some measuring and noticed a lot of things are 3/4 ton sized on the Tundra (axle, etc). Not to mention the fact the tundra frame is the same design as the other brands HD trucks (F250, F350, RAM 2500, etc) if i remember correctly?
People have driven the other 1/2 tons on test drives and noticed the expansion joint issue isn't as much of a problem on the F150s and etc. People driving 3/4s say the tundra is of course way better (to be expected) but all smooth out when loaded.
So, go back and do a test drive with those same trucks, but load the ever loving cr@p out of them. Show up for your F150 test drive with a 10'000lb trailer or a full bed toolbox full of gear and see how the ride compares over those same expansion joints or when braking, etc. See if there's a ride difference then. I would like to see the results of that ride comparison.
Took my family to Disneyland and Seaworld for a week in California this summer and rented a Dodge Charger for the week while down there. IMO, it's definitely the Cal. freeway that's causing the bounce. At certain sections of the freeway, it feels like the front wheels of the Charger is hopping off the pavement. I can understand why the Tundra would produce such a harsh ride for owners in this region.
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Up here in Minnesota don't ya know we have the bounce too. 694 has been redone in the North St. Paul area right at 35e n/s and When my truck is empty with nothing in the box it bounces really bad. My poor dogs trying to sleep in the back I bet are a bit upset with the uncomfortable ride they are experiencing. I know that my cab bounces with it because I feel it up on my seat as well. I have the TRD package on my truck. Every Friday I go to my distributors and pick up product for my retail store and even with the bed fully loaded top to bottom (top being up to the soft tonneau cover on the back closed) with about 20 cases of liquor in it and with all that liquid and glass (weight) it still bounces all over the place.
One of my customers just came in and he drives a F350 that is maybe 8 months old or so. He says fully loaded drives like a caddy but once he takes out the load in the back its like our trucks and bounces all over the place.
Personally I think that the roads have something to do with it but I also feel that Toyota could have possibly worked something a little better than this with the truck. Its a great truck and I am not getting rid of mine anytime soon because of a bounce. I have hauled almost 3000# of concrete with my truck and it didn't even hit the stops yet. I love this machine....for those who think its only Cali....drive 694/35e or 494 south in Plymouth in Minnesota and you will see its probably a combo of roads and truck build. Either way we do own the safest truck of its class on the road and that is why I bought my mainly. My family can be safe
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I know that shocks have an effect on the issue... it would be interesting to do a poll and see how many of us have the stock black Toyota shocks and how many have TRD (blue and yellow Bilstien) shocks. I had an '06 Double Cab with the TRD package and my Mom has an '05 without the TRD package. I detailed both trucks religiously and drove them both all the time. My truck with the blue and yellow Bilstiens had a much better ride than my Mom's truck. The difference was so great that sometimes I thought I jumped into my 4runner instead of my Mom's truck. My new '08 does not have Bilstiens as future plans call for a complete ICON setup so I bear with the ride I have, KNOWING IT CAN improve with better shocks.
I would still like to drive a CrewMax with the following:
-Complete ICON suspension setup
-Complete King suspension setup
-Complete standard Bilstien (TRD) shock setup
...And see the differences. I don't think that would be possible any time soon though.
My brother has a 2004 Crew Cab Dually and a 1994 Crew Cab Diesel and they both ride way worse than the Tundra ever could on it's worst day.
You're very right... they do not bounce like the Tundra... they bounce TEN TIMES worse than the Tundra.
Like I said before... if you want a better ride... buy a Civic or a mini van... not a truck.
if your brothers trucks were 10 times more springy than the tundra it would be completely undriveable. l like my truck and it meets my needs but if you dont see a problem with the springy bed then good for you cause i do. i dont drive cars either fyi. the shocks you think will fix the problem, wont.
I know that shocks have an effect on the issue... it would be interesting to do a poll and see how many of us have the stock black Toyota shocks and how many have TRD (blue and yellow Bilstien) shocks. I had an '06 Double Cab with the TRD package and my Mom has an '05 without the TRD package. I detailed both trucks religiously and drove them both all the time. My truck with the blue and yellow Bilstiens had a much better ride than my Mom's truck. The difference was so great that sometimes I thought I jumped into my 4runner instead of my Mom's truck. My new '08 does not have Bilstiens as future plans call for a complete ICON setup so I bear with the ride I have, KNOWING IT CAN improve with better shocks.
I would still like to drive a CrewMax with the following:
-Complete ICON suspension setup
-Complete King suspension setup
-Complete standard Bilstien (TRD) shock setup
...And see the differences. I don't think that would be possible any time soon though.
Interesting, I've heard the complete opposite. Those with the TRD offroad package state it is far worse than the standard suspension at least on the 2007+
i am talking about the springy a$$ end on the tundra. the tundra rides great on flat paved roads, but once you hit a sharp bump or pot hole the bed bounces like a 18 wheeler. i have followed 3/4 tons and have watched the bed of those trucks and in no way are the hopping around like the tundras. let your tailgate down on your tundra and put both hands on the tailgate and push down hard real fast and let go and do the same to your ford and the tundra is way more springy.
"Springy"? Both are sprung on the stiff side for sure. The F250 is stiffer for obvious reasons. Both have the same bounce and reverb effect on sharp obstacles, more pronounced on the 250.
I dont see how a bed can "hop around" since its bolted to the frame. If you mean the twisting/bending motion or the reverb effect, the reaction really isnt all that different between the 2 trucks. Just more severe (harshness) on the 250. You hit a really sharp bump in the F250, it'll knock your teeth out, and you'll see that bed move.
I know that shocks have an effect on the issue... it would be interesting to do a poll and see how many of us have the stock black Toyota shocks and how many have TRD (blue and yellow Bilstien) shocks. I had an '06 Double Cab with the TRD package and my Mom has an '05 without the TRD package. I detailed both trucks religiously and drove them both all the time. My truck with the blue and yellow Bilstiens had a much better ride than my Mom's truck. The difference was so great that sometimes I thought I jumped into my 4runner instead of my Mom's truck. My new '08 does not have Bilstiens as future plans call for a complete ICON setup so I bear with the ride I have, KNOWING IT CAN improve with better shocks.
I would still like to drive a CrewMax with the following:
-Complete ICON suspension setup
-Complete King suspension setup
-Complete standard Bilstien (TRD) shock setup
...And see the differences. I don't think that would be possible any time soon though.
Shocks & springs have nothing to do with the bounce. I've replaced my shocks with the Rancho Adj. and tried every setting. Not one setting worked to stop or slow down the bounce. I've mentioned this before that it's in the frame where the double "C" meets the single "C". There is a week spot there that if you look at your back seat while all the bouncing is going on...you will see your seat bouncing where the 2 "C's" meet. Try not to have an accident while looking back. You can take a passenger with you and have them look while you drive.Others have changed their springs and shocks..all it did was make their truck stiffer.
When my warranty runs out, I may have a fab shop weld or bolt a piece in that area where they meet to make it stronger.
You also forgot to mention that you didn't try softer springs.
I've mentioned it before.......it's not the frame.
The only thing fabbing something up to your frame would affect warranty wise would be your frame.
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Re: Possible Tundra Bed Bounce CURE FOUND
i have rode in f-250's, duramax's etc. they are far more of a work truck than the tundra. they have more payload, more towing power and they do not bounce like the tundra. the tundra is a workhorse for a half ton, but if you think theres nothing wrong with the bounciness, then toyota has you right where they want you. when not fully maxed out with weight, people just want a non brain jarring ride over certain road surfaces.
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Re: Possible Tundra Bed Bounce CURE FOUND
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