Amen.... or try driving the 101 from Sherman Oaks to Ventura - thought my teeth were going to fall out.
And personally, I think "bed bounce" is a misnomer -- the ENTIRE TRUCK bounces up and down. Stuff falls of the seats, drinks spill out of the top of the can and the center console pops open because everything is shaking so bad in the cab on these stretches of the freeway.
My first encounter with my Tundra on rough-jointed concrete highways was on I-26 in North Carolina. The drinks would definitely have been spilling had they no lids attached. As soon as I entered this stretch of rough highway, I set my rearview mirrors to watch for bed bounce. I did not observe bed bounce but the ride was very rough over the worn joints in the road. I thought the drink-spilling roughness was when the front wheels impacted the joints.
On the same trip going north on I-25 out of Denver I again encountered rough-jointed concrete highway to the Wyoming State Line. This time I observed bed bounce through the rearview mirrors but the ride up front was not the drink-spilling roughness encountered on I-26 in NC.
I have no idea or expertise why the truck riding characteristics were different on those two freeways, but I do believe a good solution would be to fix the roads.
I stand by the fact...THIS IS A NON ISSUE AND TOYOTA WILL DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
Petition your state and local governments to fix your roads, you'll get more than 102 people to agree with you and they will drive every make and model vehicle.
Ditto to that. From my observations, I believe fixing the roads will be the only way to resolve the bed bounce problem. You can't allow a 75 MPH freeway to deteriorate to the condition of a logging road and not expect a rough ride from any vehicle.
If the roads are the problem....then why does the truck stop the drink-spilling, spine-shaking and down right awful vibration when I hit 83mph or drive slower than 64? There is a problem that needs to be addressed.
If the roads are the problem....then why does the truck stop the drink-spilling, spine-shaking and down right awful vibration when I hit 83mph or drive slower than 64? There is a problem that needs to be addressed.
Fix the road and you can drive at any speed comfortably. When I mentioned bed bounce on I-25 north of Denver that was only encountered to the Wyoming State Line. From the Wyoming State Line north it was smooth blacktop and from then on smooth sailing the rest of the trip home.
No doubt about it from my experience, there are different States and Provinces that have different priorities when it comes to the upkeep of their roads.
I've experienced harmonics problems with concrete slab highways in the San Francisco bay area in several trucks and suv's including our Tundra; however, Ive never experienced the twisting bed harmonics I've seen in our Tundra in any other truck. In discussions with our dealer's staff they recommended using tire pressures posted on the door pillar, not increasing tire pressures to the maximum pressure listed on the tire and the addition of some extra weight over the rear axle. I thought this was a bunch hooey until I hauled some stuff for a friend and found the bed harmonics gone. I run around with a 300 pound sheet of scrap aluminum in the bed of our crewmax and haven't experienced bed harmonics since.
Fix the road and you can drive at any speed comfortably. When I mentioned bed bounce on I-25 north of Denver that was only encountered to the Wyoming State Line. From the Wyoming State Line north it was smooth blacktop and from then on smooth sailing the rest of the trip home.
No doubt about it from my experience, there are different States and Provinces that have different priorities when it comes to the upkeep of their roads.
Stuball
In my view it's ridiculous to blame the roads when other vehicles do just fine. My Tundra should be able to handle all public roads well without pogo-sticking and oscillating - unfortunately it does not.
i have a sollution: if you call it by a better name it might make people happy, lets try naming it with something that is positive like 'BOOB BOUNCE" just sounds and feels better so i really don't seem to mind it when i look over at my wife in the passenger seat
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In my view it's ridiculous to blame the roads when other vehicles do just fine. My Tundra should be able to handle all public roads well without pogo-sticking and oscillating - unfortunately it does not.
Concrete slab highways, when new or are maintained in good condition, are comfortable to ride on. My only encounter in my CrewMax with the bed-bounce was I-25 north of Denver.
You state that other vehicles do just fine. Any of the vehicles I have ever been in on concrete slab roads with worn joints have not been fine in my experience. I have not encountered bed bounce with other vehicles but definitely have encountered butt-bounce in the driver's seat.
i have a sollution: if you call it by a better name it might make people happy, lets try naming it with something that is positive like 'BOOB BOUNCE" just sounds and feels better so i really don't seem to mind it when i look over at my wife in the passenger seat
It depends on how old your wife is. It could be calle the "BOOB FLAP".
If the roads are the problem....then why does the truck stop the drink-spilling, spine-shaking and down right awful vibration when I hit 83mph or drive slower than 64? There is a problem that needs to be addressed.
Measure the wheelbase.. then look up the joint spacing for the freeways. Theres your answer right there. The highways need to be fixed down south.
Concrete slab highways, when new or are maintained in good condition, are comfortable to ride on. My only encounter in my CrewMax with the bed-bounce was I-25 north of Denver.
You state that other vehicles do just fine. Any of the vehicles I have ever been in on concrete slab roads with worn joints have not been fine in my experience. I have not encountered bed bounce with other vehicles but definitely have encountered butt-bounce in the driver's seat.
Stuball
I have driven that stretch of road with both my Tundra and Landcruiser. The 'cruiser is smooth, the Tundra vibrated the heck out of you. Yes, the road is crappy and should be blacktop, but that doesn't justify the Tundra's handling on it. It is a problem and you yourself acknowledge it.
Can any of you from SoCal drive the same highways noted and not experience it in a stock vehicle? Someone needs to prove it doesn't exist, because plenty of proof has been offered that it does.
Can't you deniers just let those who want to talk about it do so without having to restate your belief it doesn't exist?
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In my view it's ridiculous to blame the roads when other vehicles do just fine. My Tundra should be able to handle all public roads well without pogo-sticking and oscillating - unfortunately it does not.
One of the hallmarks of a good suspension is the ability to manage challenging road conditions. I've never felt there was any question the Tundra has a great suspension on the merit of countless raves about it.
But harmonic oscillations excited by the nexus of road modals and the natural resonant frequency of the truck are outside the responsibility of the suspension or the highway department. Therefore I agree.
No it showed that you got only 102 people to agree to whine about it.
You didn't even provide a section for all the people that don't want to complain to be surveyed.
Since that post, we received another 140 responses. While 240 people may not be a "mandate", it's definitely evidence there is an issue.
As for not including people that had no problems, I fail to see how that would have been meaningful. Unless every Tundra owner took the survey, the data we ended up with would have been pretty meaningless (of the people that bothered to fill out the survey, some percentage said they didn't suffer from bed bounce -- then what, extrapolate from that skewed result?).
As for your point about this being a non-issue, I don't know what to say. I think there are two kinds of bed bounce -- severe bed bounce that will rattle your cage, and minor bed bounce that you can see in the rear view mirror but not feel in the seat of your pants.
ALL trucks have minor bed bounce -- crossing railroad tracks, hitting big bumps, etc. The bed must move independently of the cab for a variety of reasons, and you'll always see the bed skittering and rattling a little. HOWEVER, when the bed bounce is severe enough to shake the interior of your car (you can find videos of this happening), that is a PROBLEM.
Anyways, I don't feel like I'm being productive here. I'll post again when I have some results to share.
If there is still an ongoing list being created, you can add me to it. I DO experience the severe bed bounce every time I go on I-85 in SC between mile 30 and 22 (Going towards Atlanta) unless I carry a a load in the bed.
Re: Possible Tundra Bed Bounce CURE FOUND
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