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TundraGeneral discussion forum for the 2007 and later Toyota Tundra.
This is a discussion thread titled "Crewmax Truck bounce-not just bed-whole truck", within the Tundra forum, part of the Truck Forums category.
As I have stated before, my 07 bounced. My new 08 bounces. Test drove another 08, it bounced. If you get the bounce, you will know it. It will shake the teeth out of you. It is a Toyota problem. I don't have faith in Toyota I once had. I don't see them helping us. I live in ND, all Tundras were non TRD.
When the 2007 Tundra hit the street, I seem to remember everyone here saying how the flexing of the open channel Tundra frame (with riveted on, skeletonized cross members) was superior to the stiffer Dodge and Ford fully boxed frames. I think time has shown that line of thinking was wrong...
I agree with Toyota - its a characteristic of the truck. If you have to drive on the roads that are giving people fits, make suspension changes or pick up another truck.
IMO - it's all a matter of tradeoffs, and everything is going to have a weakness.
If you're looking to buy a Tundra, take it to the bumpiest stretch of interstate you know and see if you can deal with it. I have no complaints really, and except for extremely bad roads (Cali and certain other places where the ride is uncomfortable regardless of what you drive) I think a lot of this is whining - like the seatbelt chime stuff.
It's not a defect, Toyota's not going to fix it - it is what it is. If you don't like the Truck, sell it and get something else... and I suggest you test drive more thoroughly next time.
When the 2007 Tundra hit the street, I seem to remember everyone here saying how the flexing of the open channel Tundra frame (with riveted on, skeletonized cross members) was superior to the stiffer Dodge and Ford fully boxed frames. I think time has shown that line of thinking was wrong...
humbug - that's why many of the heavy duty trucks have C-channel frames right? Becaues its inferior?
If you haven't experienced this problem you're lucky. Check out Recalls.gov . Dozens of owners have filed complaints with the NHTSA conserning this very problem w/ 2007-2008 Tundra.
hi, i took a ride on a 2008 on the highway, & in the city.
i now have the understanding of what many are talking about.
i have owned ford, chevy, dodge, jeep, & toyota trucks.
this bed bounce is no way what trucks should do.
since i owned lets say 6pickup in the past, the new GEN2 TUNDRA's bed bounce is so bad, it changed my mind, in buying a gen2.
unless toyota fixes the problem, or some one come's up with a total fix,
i just can't see myself buying this truck.
i have a 05 doublecab, and at any speed, or on any road i do not have this issue.
when you are on a highway, not off roading, and the truck bounce's so bad, you can't think straight, it can't be normal.
NONE of my pickup's EVER did this before.
this is sad, that a toyota who make's the best vehicle's out there, would have such a problem. and would not address it, nor fix it.
sadly at this time, i can say, NO crewmax for me at this time.
maybe when 1 of you figure out the fix, or toyota stand's behind the truck and address's it, i will reconsider this truck.
gorilla
I have driven a crewmax for the whole day down the enterstate and inthe city and the ride is as smooth as silk ! The truck floated like a cadilac you guys sure it's not just the road or tires or somthing I'm sure it's a good explination for this. I even dorve the X-SP with the 20's every thing was fine.
maybe if we put our head's together,we will figure out what is the cause.
why wait for toyota to do it.
they didn't figure out what caused the shaking,side to side,tracking- as some have called it. it fells like your on a motorcycle on a grated bridge.
on the 20" rims/& tire's on the 2005 & 2006 tundra's.
well i researched it, countless hours and many phone conversation's, email's, tire company's, and i found out it was the tire's. & a tire that fixed the issue totally.
it's GONE!
i posted a thread on it, some took my adivse and they love the fact that it's finally over. it's gone.
NOW why some gen2 do it(bed bounce), and some don't, and why some have it really bad, and some not so bad.
there has to be a common factor.
shock's, rim size's, tire type's & size's, 4x4, 4x2, spring's type, and all these different combo's.
again there has to be a common factor.
i truely belive that we are many.
and
if we all in-put a data base, 1 of us will come up with they why & how to resolve it.
without toyota , since so far to date they(toyota) will not address it.
gorilla
I agree with Toyota - its a characteristic of the truck. If you have to drive on the roads that are giving people fits, make suspension changes or pick up another truck.
IMO - it's all a matter of tradeoffs, and everything is going to have a weakness.
If you're looking to buy a Tundra, take it to the bumpiest stretch of interstate you know and see if you can deal with it. I have no complaints really, and except for extremely bad roads (Cali and certain other places where the ride is uncomfortable regardless of what you drive) I think a lot of this is whining - like the seatbelt chime stuff.
It's not a defect, Toyota's not going to fix it - it is what it is. If you don't like the Truck, sell it and get something else... and I suggest you test drive more thoroughly next time.
Responding to a few of your comments. You are very lucky to live in a area that does not create the shaking. At one time I did'nt understand the comments concerning the bounce. I had the 07 eight months before experiencing the shaking. I don't think a dealer would let me test drive eight months. The area of interstate that causes the bounce is 50 miles from the dealership. Again, I don't think dealers like putting on over 100 miles on a new truck for a test drive. I admit some of us may have bought on blind faith because its Toyota. But why not, it's Toyota. I bought the 08 keeping my trust that Toytoa will do the right thing. Now I feel Toyota has changed, and will try to walk away from the problem.
It is a DEFECT of some kind. I am lucky to have experienced the shaking only twice. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy this Tundra. But if I had the bounce everyday, the Tundra would go.
If you don't like reading about the bounce, don't read posts realating to the bounce.
I'm sorry, I find no defect. Its simply a characteristic of the truck's suspension. If it were softened up people would be bitchin' that it sags too much when hauling a load.
You can't win. I've driven around LA on some crappy concrete interstates and its intolerable regardless of what you drive, especially in a truck.
If you previously had a truck that was silky across these roads, and didn't have to trade off with something else, you should have stuck with it - or that brand.
IMO, its all give and take and the Tundra isn't substantially different in terms of ride quality.
One point a friend of mind with a DC F150 made, was that the crewmax cab is so long, it may bounce passengers more, because they are more toward the back of the "unweighted" bed (the majority of these complaints come from crewmax owners)... its much the same effect as you get on a school bus: motor in the front, relatively smooth ride, no weight in the back - bouncy.
I live in south dakota and we aren't known for good roads. I admit I have a double cab, not a crewmax, but it's the smoothest pickup I have ever ridden in besides also being the quietest. Maybe I am just a lucky one but sure love it.
I live in NJ and have been a life long Chevy owner before buying my '07 Tundra Crew Max. Wether Toyota wants to admit it's a defect or not, like I told the factory rep. when we went for a test drive, when it comes time for me to buy a new truck ONE of the considerations will be do I want a truck with a shaky, bouncy bed or a truck with a stable bed. As far as Toyota's "customer service" - good response, no action.
June 2008 Tundra sales down 54% compared to June '07. I wonder how that compares to Ford, Chevy, Dodge and Nissan? Banging up production in all but San Antonio, TX.
Just checked and as follows;
June '08 vs. June '07 June Sales
Chevy Silverado (-24%) #2
F-Series Ford (-40%) #1
Dodge Ram (-49%) #3
Tundra (-53%) #4
Nissan Titans' sales numbers were very low - only about 1200 sold and they were off probably 60 - 70%, I don't remember exactly.
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