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Old 01-19-2008, 08:22 AM
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Hi,

Just thought I'd pass this along.

A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.

On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.

The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.

Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.

Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.

They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager.

They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles.

Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India .

Sadly, The End.

Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US , claiming they can't make money paying American wages.

TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US . The last quarter's results:

TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.

Ford folks are still scratching their heads.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:54 AM
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Unfortunately, this is all too true..... and GM is headed down the same steep slope. Chrysler, well I guess there is hope now that Germany is out of the mix, but there are some serious issues that they need to address also. I honestly hope that all three can get their collective acts together before it's too late.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:51 AM
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Well a big part of it is not so much the union wages the big 3 pay here in the US but the HUGE benefits packages the UAW bargained for over the years.

Toyota actually pays their workers a very similar hourly wage to the union wage. Its all the hourly benefits they pay that kills domestic guys.

Not the whole picture but part of it.
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This one was so good I had to print it.
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When I got my 07 Tundra CM Ltd, I was curious about the factory claims regarding power and torque. I did a little research on the Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Nissan, and Toyota webistes, gathering their data off their websites about their truck motors...I'm attaching a spreadsheet of what I found. When it came to power, there was no one claiming greater than the Toyota 5.7. As far as torque, 4 other motors claimed higher torque (3 turbo diesels and 1 10-cylinder)...Interesting stuff for the trivia minded...
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This is the stuff that you can't make up...(the facts listed here, not the metaphor)
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