4-inch lift

DanielAcosta · #1 (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 01:24 AM

Had a Revtek, which advertised 2.5 but was closer to 1.5 inch lift. Planned a 6-inch but couldn't find a way to do it without wheels that pushed the tires out beyond the fenders.

Kept the differential and driveshaft drops but scrapped the rest of the Revtek. RIM1 Custom Wheels best source for FOOSE,DUB,TIS.... made a 4-inch lift by adding a custom-milled portion from a Trailmaster kit to a full Daystar kit, as shown in the photos in my gallery. On the back we made 2.25-inch blocks with extenders for the brake line brackets to keep the lines off the leafs. Stock wheels, coil overs, and shocks all around.

Ride is better without the Revtek spring pre-load, yet no more than stock lean around high-speed corners. Southern California bed-bounce is significantly reduced, probably from the combination of less spring pre-load up front and less rake than stock. Plenty of room left in the headlight adjusters.

Our goal was the most lift possible while keeping the stock suspension. I think we got it about right, as 3 of the 4 adjusters for the front end alignment are now maxed out.

305/65/18 BFG AT's look small now. With 20,000 miles, they have about half their tread left. Once they wear out, I will be going to at least 35 if not 37's. RIM1 Custom Wheels best source for FOOSE,DUB,TIS.... does lifts and wheels for the local dealers, so I will be returning to them for wheel well mods when it's time for the 37's. I have about 3 inches left to the top of my 7-foot garage, so it should still fit with the bigger tires.

Right now my front wheel well sits 5 inches taller than stock, but still 3 inches shorter than Tundras with a 6-inch lift and 35's. We did a before and after measurement and I gained 2.5 inches in height up front compared to the Revtek kit.

I was getting 14 in town, but that recently jumped to 17 with the battery disconnect reset. I have the towing package and gears, so there is still plenty of power with the oversize tires; I suspect it will still be fine going to 37's.

I know pictures aren't as good as the real thing, but they are in my gallery just the same. Let me know if you have questions.

Update: discovered rear blocks left minimal travel with the stock shocks, so used this as a good excuse to put longer, softer shocks that will hopefully eliminate what's left of the bed bounce. Going to Meguiar's class in March, which will give me a chance to see if the ride is better on I-10.

Fromanhb · #2 (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 02:02 AM

You should really at least get a upper control arm. That stock suspension isn't meant for that big of a geometry change. You may end up replacing quite a few upper ball joints in the life of the truck not accounting for any other problems. The upper arm will correct the jacked up camber to a better angle as well as giving you a 1" uniball which is by far better then any balljoint.
If I were you I would shell out the money and do a lift kit right. I've had nothing but bad experiences with cheap lifts. Something like this will give you an excellent ride, especially off-road http://www.camburg.com/images/2007%2...Full%20Kit.jpg

2007dctundra4x4 · #3 (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fromanhb

You should really at least get a upper control arm. That stock suspension isn't meant for that big of a geometry change. You may end up replacing quite a few upper ball joints in the life of the truck not accounting for any other problems. The upper arm will correct the jacked up camber to a better angle as well as giving you a 1" uniball which is by far better then any balljoint.
If I were you I would shell out the money and do a lift kit right. I've had nothing but bad experiences with cheap lifts. Something like this will give you an excellent ride, especially off-road http://www.camburg.com/images/2007%2...Full%20Kit.jpg

yeah i agree...that stock ball joint has to be at it's limit...do it right

DanielAcosta · #4 (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 02:35 AM

Problem with the Camburg is I am not sure it would fit with the stock wheels. I am not interested in decreasing offset and having tires that stick out beyond the fender. I do appreciate the advice, though, about keeping track of the ball joint wear.

I can tell you there is more travel left than with a similar arrangement I had on my 05 Frontier. With that truck, the suspension would top out on large bumps; no negative effects noticed so far with the Tundra.

Fromanhb · #5 (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 02:38 AM

I would give them a call about the stock wheels. I'm pretty sure they will allow for stock wheels with their light setup since it's only coilovers and upper arms. Now the long travel kit is something I will only be dreaming about, if you've ever ridden in a long travel truck it's addicting!

DanielAcosta · #6 (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fromanhb

I would give them a call about the stock wheels. I'm pretty sure they will allow for stock wheels with their light setup since it's only coilovers and upper arms. Now the long travel kit is something I will only be dreaming about, if you've ever ridden in a long travel truck it's addicting!

I believe the Camburg kit you are describing only gives 3 inches of lift, not to mention the question of whether it would clear stock wheels with oversize tires. My current set up only has about 1/2 inch clearance to the UCA, and of course needed the usual skid plate tweak.

DanielAcosta · #7 (**permalink**) 01-30-2008, 09:37 PM

Added info to my original post regarding rear shocks.

mauleg0615 · #8 (**permalink**) 01-31-2008, 07:24 AM

Im fro the west valley area. I have a 2007 TRD 4x4 DC with the Toytec 3" lift. I like your setup! what did the custom lift cost you to install with the parts and who did it? Acosta I would like to see your truck in person to see the height difference with my Toytec. I still have stock wheels and tires. Let me know. Thanks Bro

DanielAcosta · #9 (**permalink**) 01-31-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mauleg0615

Im fro the west valley area. I have a 2007 TRD 4x4 DC with the Toytec 3" lift. I like your setup! what did the custom lift cost you to install with the parts and who did it? Acosta I would like to see your truck in person to see the height difference with my Toytec. I still have stock wheels and tires. Let me know. Thanks Bro

There is a link to the shop RIM1 Custom Wheels best source for FOOSE,DUB,TIS.... in my original post. They do wheel, tire, and lift work for several local dealers. Their consumer direct pricing was very competitive.

Verify this for yourself at your local dealer: stock front wheelwell is 36" high. Mine is 41" front, just over 42" rear. I am guessing your front wheelwell is around 39". You are more than welcome to see mine in person anytime, just let me know. I usually have the truck in Tempe on Fridays just around the corner from the shop that did my lift (RIM1 Custom Wheels best source for FOOSE,DUB,TIS....). I could meet you there in case you wanted to talk to the owner or techs.

ex-chevyguy · #10 (**permalink**) 01-31-2008, 07:39 PM

Hey nice sounding setup! I'm going to be putting a Truxxx 3" and 305/55 20s on my truck in the spring and I'm a little worried about how its going to ride. I've asked a few times and have never really gotten an answer about a softer shock for these trucks. I have the TRD package and I think its already a bit stiff and know its going to be much worse with the lift and bigger tires and rims. So I'm wondering how you like you're ES3000s on you're truck? I was planning on Bilsteins 5100s but from what I've heard they are stiffer than the stock Bilsteins and give it better "control". So do the Pro-Comps give a softer ride? Sorry for the long *** post for a very simple question lol. Thanks

DanielAcosta · #11 (**permalink**) 01-31-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ex-chevyguy

Hey nice sounding setup! I'm going to be putting a Truxxx 3" and 305/55 20s on my truck in the spring and I'm a little worried about how its going to ride. I've asked a few times and have never really gotten an answer about a softer shock for these trucks. I have the TRD package and I think its already a bit stiff and know its going to be much worse with the lift and bigger tires and rims. So I'm wondering how you like you're ES3000s on you're truck? I was planning on Bilsteins 5100s but from what I've heard they are stiffer than the stock Bilsteins and give it better "control". So do the Pro-Comps give a softer ride? Sorry for the long *** post for a very simple question lol. Thanks

The ride is better with the softer hydraulic shocks in the rear, but I haven't had a chance to take it off road or over to California to test it on I-10 yet. Those will be the more definitive tests. Normal driving, though, yes the ride is better. Your instincts to go softer rather than firmer than the stock TRD set-up is right on.

ex-chevyguy · #12 (**permalink**) 01-31-2008, 08:35 PM

Awsome thanks! Thats just what I wanted to hear, sounds like ES3000s are going in at the same time as the lift then. I live in New Hampshire so I have never had the bed bounce problems, I just get whole truck bounce on frost heaves 3/4 of the year. Thanks for the quick responce and the answer I was looking for! Hope they help with your' bed bounce problems.

ex-chevyguy · #13 (**permalink**) 02-01-2008, 08:13 PM

Well I went on 4wheelparts last night and the web site had the ES3000s listed for the 07 tundra so I almost ordered them for front and rear but something seamed a little fishy so I decided to wait and call to conferm today. The guy that I talked to claimed that the only shocks they carry for the Tundras are Bilsteins and that Pro-Comp doesn't make shocks that will fit our trucks. Do you know if Pro-Comp makes ones that will fit the front? Thanks

DanielAcosta · #14 (**permalink**) 02-02-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ex-chevyguy

Well I went on 4wheelparts last night and the web site had the ES3000s listed for the 07 tundra so I almost ordered them for front and rear but something seamed a little fishy so I decided to wait and call to conferm today. The guy that I talked to claimed that the only shocks they carry for the Tundras are Bilsteins and that Pro-Comp doesn't make shocks that will fit our trucks. Do you know if Pro-Comp makes ones that will fit the front? Thanks

Check out my original post and signature block. My lift shop (RIM1 Custom Wheels best source for FOOSE,DUB,TIS....) picked the shocks to fit the extra length I needed in the back; I posted the exact part number they used for convenience. I know that ProComp will not list this exact part number for the Tundra because stock wouldn't have 2.25 inch blocks. But I have seen this exact part number for the ES3000 on their website, the part number just determines the length. The lift shop measured my ride height, then picked the shocks with the right length to match.

Anyway, all of this was for the rear; the front still has the oem coilovers and shocks.

Drayday55 · #15 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 11:50 PM

so what do you guys think about camburg coilovers, upper controll arms limmit straps
and truxxus spacers above the camburgs adjust the cambur for a total of 4 inches to 4.5 inches of front lift. i think it would be the best of both worlds as the camburg shocks blow pro comp out of the water but add a little more lift with the blocks
now i need to think of dropping down the diff in a nice way , not just a couple of washers! any ideas???