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    Default Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    hit black ice today and slid into a gnarly ditch. almost rolled the truck but saved it, but in doing so i messed up my front end alignment. i am new to paying for repairs on my vehicle as i am only 18, but how much is too much, what can i expect, should i go to a dealership or to a shop?

    any and all help is very much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by rockstate45 View Post
    Well what kind of ditch did you hit? Was it just like a bump that messed with your camber and caster or do you think it messed with your geometry?

    I'd say it might save a few bucks if you took it to a tire store but maybe you could get an appraisal to see if there was any other damage?

    Oh, and when I get my tires aligned on my Expy it was about $60 at the Goodyear store.

    Glad to hear you saved your truck though! The cost of getting an alignment sure beats the deductable and cost of a new truck!

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    the rear fender was popped in a little bit and the exhaust pipe has a dent at the exit, which is now an excuse for me to buy a new tip from sparks. i also got alot of mud in the rear passenger side calliper but took it to the self washing places with the power washer hose and cleaned it all out does not looked damaged, and the rear fender popped right back out.

    as for the front, all i know is that i have to hold the wheel about 5-10 degrees to the left to keep the truck straight. i turned toward the ditch as i went in that was probably a sloping 2-3' down. but thankfully i turned towards it, cause if i had not, i am sure the axle could of been yanked out or rolled or something. any more advice?

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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    Depending on where you live, and where you go, you can expect to pay between $60 and $120 for an alignment if nothing is damaged.
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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    I think you should have your truck inspected for hidden damage. Maybe you can get your Toyota dealer to do it for you. It sounds to me like you may have more wrong with your truck than just a simple alignment will fix. If the steering wheel is now that far off, I think something got bent. If the cost of repair is going to run into big bucks, maybe you should contact your insurance company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeinAZ View Post
    I think you should have your truck inspected for hidden damage. Maybe you can get your Toyota dealer to do it for you. It sounds to me like you may have more wrong with your truck than just a simple alignment will fix. If the steering wheel is now that far off, I think something got bent. If the cost of repair is going to run into big bucks, maybe you should contact your insurance company.
    i really hope that is not true. i was just doing some research and found that maybe a steering alignment will help solve the problem .

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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    I agree with the above post. Take you truck to the dealer and explain what happend and let them diagnose the problem Something may be bent or loose. If the estimate for repair exceeds your insurance deductable then I would file a claim with your insurance company.

    If the dealer says all you need is an alignment, then just pay whatever they charge and be happy thats all it is. I would not go to a tire shop. This is definetly grounds for a dealer visit.

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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    I totally agree with Lee and green. It's worth paying 70 or 80 for the alignment at the dealer vs 50 or 60 elsewhere because you might need more than just an alignment.

    My car was in a minor accident, still drove fine, but ended up needing $3K worth of suspension and frame work to drive straight again. Hopefully yours will just be an alignment, but don't be surprised if it ends up needing a few parts.
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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    at discount tire it is 150 for a life tyme alignment

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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    Firestone also offers a lifetime alignment for around 150 also. Can't go wrong with IMO, if you don't like it take it back.

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    I bought the firestone lifetime alignment for $130. It paid for itself on my last truck, and I'm sure it will on this one too. 4 wheeling takes its toll, and its nice to be able to take it in whenever you want.

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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    In my mind the reason you need to have it inspected by the dealer is because if they say "it needs XYZ" and say it's $1k, say OK, file a claim with your ins. Then the ins co will ask for estimates (I'd assume they would anyways) tell them you only want a Toyota dealer to work on it. Have the dealer estimate it, then have them repair it. It's all documented and if a vibration or shimmy or something right after it's repaired you can keep taking it back to the dealer until it's repaired to your satisfaction.
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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    If I were you I would do my own visual inspection first. Look at the side that took the impact with the ditch and look at the tire, sway bar, tie rod, etc to see if anything looks broken, bent, etc. Compare the impacted side with the other side and make sure everything looks the same. You can even stand directly in front of the truck and look very closely and compare the alignment of the tires. If something was really wrong it would be pretty obvious. One wheel could be noticeably angled the wrong way, etc. Also listen very closely for noises while driving around. I myself would try to diagnose what the problem was before taking it in to a local shop or stealership. Have a good one.
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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by remotemonkey View Post
    hit black ice today and slid into a gnarly ditch. almost rolled the truck but saved it, but in doing so i messed up my front end alignment. i am new to paying for repairs on my vehicle as i am only 18, but how much is too much, what can i expect, should i go to a dealership or to a shop?

    any and all help is very much appreciated.
    did wheels take any kinda direct impact resulting as in like hitting a brick wall? if so it is possible ya bent the front strut and any alignment tech should be able to diagnose and fix, but find one that knows what he is doing as in non rookie!!
    i paid 69 buck at Toyota not long ago for alignment but that was on a 93 PU but i think the Tundra should be the same!
    Last edited by HOGWILD; 01-26-2008 at 06:25 PM.

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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by remotemonkey View Post
    the rear fender was popped in a little bit and the exhaust pipe has a dent at the exit, which is now an excuse for me to buy a new tip from sparks. i also got alot of mud in the rear passenger side calliper but took it to the self washing places with the power washer hose and cleaned it all out does not looked damaged, and the rear fender popped right back out.

    as for the front, all i know is that i have to hold the wheel about 5-10 degrees to the left to keep the truck straight. i turned toward the ditch as i went in that was probably a sloping 2-3' down. but thankfully i turned towards it, cause if i had not, i am sure the axle could of been yanked out or rolled or something. any more advice?
    From that description, I suspect damage in the rear axle area. Specifically, the axle "skewed", meaning it is no longer perpendicular to the longitudinal centerline of the vehicle. Let's look at the details, shall we?

    Your truck has what is called a "live axle", meaning it is not an independent rear suspension. So, we can approximate what is called the "thrust line" as a line beginning at the center of the rear axle, pointing forward, and perpendicular to the axle. What is significant here is that this line, the thrust line, is the line down which the center of the rear axle will roll when the vehicle rolls along in a straight line.

    After the skid, you have to hold your steering wheel significantly to the left to be able to roll along in a straight line. That is consistent with my suspicion that the rear axle is skewed such that the thrust line now points to the left a bit instead of pointing straight forward along the centerline of the vehicle.

    Now, how to check it, right?

    Measure the alignment. We are interested in two number reported by the alignment machine: 1) front total toe; and, 2) rear thrust angle.

    If front total toe is correct, then likely nothing was bent in the front end. If, in addition, rear thrust angle is negative by a significant amount, then the rear axle was skewed.

    The damage could be bent spring mounts, bent frame, or (most likely) the axle has shifted on the springs.

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    Default Re: Need a front end alignment. need help. how much should i pay?

    For future "maintenance" related things, tire rotation, oil changes, brakes, etc. keep an eye on your local mailed flyers, papers and those val-pacs for coupons. I also got on the email list for the local Toyota dealer. They often give some pretty good deals to get you in and inspect for other opportunities to "help", i.e. lighten your wallet.
    Goodyear, Firestone, Discount Tire, your local dealer are all sources for coupons.
    18 is a tough time to own such a vehicle, but koodos to you for choosing such a great vehicle.

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