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Default 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

I have noticed on several 100 mile+ road trips that the tundra gets 3 mpg better when going 65 rather than 70-72. It blows my mind that such a small difference in speed and engine rpm's can have such an impact on mileage. Anyone else find this odd?
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

Drag increases with the square of speed. So if you double your speed, you are increasing the air resistance by a factor of 4. There are potentially some other things also going on, such as aerodynamics changing through the engine bay/over the cab/over the bed.
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

That is dead on. Mine is more like 64mph is peak performance for the highway. if i get over 67-69 i might as well go 75.
I cant drive 64-65 so i get screwed with 3mpg less
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

after 60/65mph, wind resistance increases greatly even with a difference of just 1mph...
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

It's not just drag, it's also a function of rpm. Somewhere around 1800 is the sweet spot, while above 2000 it starts to get thirsty.
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

If I drove 65 on the freeway, I would get run over.......
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

65 mph is insane. I don't think anyone with a Tundra will drive that slow especially on highways.
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

atleast 70
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

I just did a 440 mile trip yesterday from Knoxville to Atlanta and back. On the way down I was rolling around 70 on the GPS and the computer showed that I was averaging 16.3 MPG. On the way back I was running around 65 or 66 on the GPS (I am not in a hurry when I am on company time ) and when I pulled in my driveway the computer showed that I was averaging 20.1 MPG. This is by far the best fuel economy I have received out of my Tundra.

Now that I think about it when I went to Florida last year with 4 people and all our junk in the truck I averaged a little over 12MPG running 80 - 85 MPH. That trip almost made me trade it in on something else, I am glad now that I didn't.
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

I have to agree with Sammy Hagar - I can't drive 65!!!
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

Most of the state highways in South Dakota are 65mph. That is my normal speed.

Only I-90 has a 75mph limit in SD, and to the south I-80 in Nebraska is 75mph as well.

My last long trip actually surprised me when I averaged 19.0mpg on I-80 at 75mph. Then again NE is flat flat flat, and for once there was no wind to speak of.
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

i'm glad to see others getting similar results. I still can't believe that just a few MPH makes such a difference. I also have the 4.10 rear end so I wonder how much difference having the 4.30's would have made on similar trips?
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

I never go above 68, 60 if I'm towing so 65 would not bother me. Speed limit in New york is 65.
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

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I have to agree with Sammy Hagar - I can't drive 65!!!
We have it good, Sammy's speed limit at the time was 55
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Default Re: 6 MPH difference = 3 MPG!!!

Ditto those results here. Hauling a washer and dryer down to our lake house, at night, ~68mph, I averaged 18.7 for the trip, with the first 50 miles of that being in Dallas traffic (though for once it was moving). On the return, day driving, 74mph, nothing major in the bed, and no real traffic to speak of I averaged 17.4 for the trip. Big difference for sure. Remove that washer and dryer for the down trip, and I bet the difference in mpg is much closer to the 2.5 to 3 mpg. By my calculations, I would get to drive an extra 42 miles per fill up (20 gallons) which equals ~2.4 gallons of fuel, which equals ~$6.75 per 390 miles (20 gallons x 19.5mpg vs 20 gallons x 17.4 mpg).

Now if we look at $/time, the difference is actually pretty good.

390 miles @74 mph = ~5:16, 390 miles @68mph = 5:42, total difference of 26 minutes.

$6.75/26 minutes = ~$0.26/minute to drive 74 vs 68.

On an hour, that would be $15.60. More over, to drive 390 miles at 74, you are going to have to stop to fill up once, and that will cut that time differential some also.

All told, I guess it makes sense to slow down, the time savings are not that much (less than an hour for a full day of driving), and the dollar savings on a day long trip (10-12 hours) would pay for my meals. Thanks all for making me work this out.
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