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Old 02-22-2008, 01:42 PM
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Question Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

Wandering if anyone has any experience going from the stock TRD/Bilstein suspension to Camburg coilovers. Mainly wandering if the ride is improved or worse, on and off road.

Second is how much lift can you actually get from them. It seems most lifts actually produce 1/2" to 1" less than they claim.

Third, who's truck is this? I can't recall but I believe it's the Camburg combined with the thin spacer of a Toytec kit? Could achieve 3"-4" total, then combine it with a diff drop for better CV angles?
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...burgToytec.jpg

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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

Camburgs are simply rebranded Sway-A-Way coilovers (SAWs). Comparing the ride of these shock to the factory equipment is not even possible...it's like comparing a Ferrari to a Yugo, IMO The ride, travel, wear & tear...EVERYTHING will be improved compared to stock.

That is a custom made spacer, probably done by Camburg. That particular individual saw 4 inches of lift with a good amount of preload, that spacer, and the Camburg UCAs. I would probably be more conservative and crank the shocks back down a bit for about 3 to 3.5 inches of front lift in combination with the UCAs.

I'll be running the original SAWs custom valved by PRG Products. Should have them in a few weeks.
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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

Camburg's are way better than the stock ride. I can tell you with all the potholes we have here I could easily tell the difference. I believe the lift was 2 inches. I was able to clear 305's with just a little bit of trimming of the skid plate
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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

At Wheelers website they mention 0-3" for SAW, which I believe is what Camburg uses. Was there a special wrench included? Did you do anything to the rear?

I believe most stock trucks are 3" lower in the front at the center of the fender well.
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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

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I'll be running the original SAWs custom valved by PRG Products. Should have them in a few weeks.

got any more info on them?

i'm assuming that spacer is 7075 T6 aluminum, but if anyone knows more details on it, i'd appreciate it. or at least some better pics of it.
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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

Camburg did include a spanner wrench to make adjustments with.
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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

In that picture this guy has the UCA upside down and the coilover stacked with a spacer... THIS IS NOT OK TO DO PEOPLE!!!!!
Why do people always try to squeeze more out of some thing that is figured out already? We have a very well thought out system that works so well when set up correctly.
Where did you get that picture? Where is the thread? Can someone tell the guy his UCA is upside down?

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Wandering if anyone has any experience going from the stock TRD/Bilstein suspension to Camburg coilovers. Mainly wandering if the ride is improved or worse, on and off road.

Second is how much lift can you actually get from them. It seems most lifts actually produce 1/2" to 1" less than they claim.

Third, who's truck is this? I can't recall but I believe it's the Camburg combined with the thin spacer of a Toytec kit? Could achieve 3"-4" total, then combine it with a diff drop for better CV angles?
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...burgToytec.jpg

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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

Now for the reason why you cant stack a spacer with a extended travel coilover. The coilover limits the droop travel like the stock truck. The difference is we limit it right before the ball joints, steering joints, and axles bind. Now if you add a spacer you will allow the coilover to droop to far and let everything go to bind. THIS IS VERY BAD!!! There is no more lift or droop to be gained. if you want a street lift then get a Fabtech or RCD, etc... droop down bracket lift. These do not work well off-road as they are intended to be a lift kit. Camburg suspension systems are off-road performance kits not lift kits. Sure you can get 3.5" of lift but the point of our systems is better handling on and off-road. We use the latest technology to give you this better performance. If you have ever had the chance to ride on and off-road in one of our kits verse a lift kit you would know the difference right away.
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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

Didn't expect to find myself over here today ...

Here's a picture of what stacking spacers on coilovers, or using any top-load spacer, will do to your upper ball joint. If you want more lift, turn the coilover up more...or better yet, please, please! read through the lift information linked in my signature line. It applies to any IFS setup, not just 1st-gen Tundras, and might help some of you guys new to modifying IFS avoid similar mistakes.

The massive dent is caused by overextension from improperly limited suspension.
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Default Re: Experience going from TRD/Bilstein to Camburg ??

Ouch!!!
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