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So to add video its a matter of intercepting the rear camera input to the NAV and injecting your own source, a simple relay make it simple. I am thinking it be a easy build to make a simple relay box to do this or as WileE did in his post he added a video switcher which is a great idea then you can have a few different inputs, which was a awsome idea.
If you tap into the nav input, how does it know to show the dvd image and not the back up camera image? Or is that what the relay is for?
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If you tap into the nav input, how does it know to show the dvd image and not the back up camera image? Or is that what the relay is for?
Simple answer yes thats what I would use the relay for but if you didn't want to go through all that trouble you could do a DPDT switch that give you enough point to switch for video and audio if thats what you want to do. Like mentioned earlier read about WileE setup he has done alot of the leg work on figuring out which wires do what already.
Oh StatCoder if you not heard from WileE let me know I think I got his spreed sheets save on one of my computer at home, I just got to find them.
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Simple answer yes thats what I would use the relay for but if you didn't want to go through all that trouble you could do a DPDT switch that give you enough point to switch for video and audio if thats what you want to do. Like mentioned earlier read about WileE setup he has done alot of the leg work on figuring out which wires do what already.
Oh StatCoder if you not heard from WileE let me know I think I got his spreed sheets save on one of my computer at home, I just got to find them.
Thanks WT. I would also be interested in getting the spread sheets if you come across them.
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Thanks. The link to the Excel spreadsheet with the wiring diagram in this thread isn't good anymore. Is there a new location?

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...entertainment/
Ok, ok. I give. I have been inundated with requests for the NAV DVD rear camera hack so I will go ahead and post my new report this weekend. I am in the process of finishing it so I removed the old files to avoid confusion. The new report will have all NAV hacks in it including the wiring info. I just ask you to be patient and remember that for every post, PM, or email that you send me I am receiving dozens just like it all at the same time. I wish I could retire early - would just travel around the US and help everyone modify their vehicles - a Tundra Road Show of sorts. Would be great to meet everyone and see all the trucks.
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I was able to successfully enable the backup camera input and feed it video from my iPod and portable DVD player using the info on this thread. The video quality is poor. I'm hoping this is because I didn't use coaxial cable to run my bypass. The backup camera feed looks OK but I think it's because there's no other unshielded video signal running around like there is when I'm feeding it video.

Addendum: Coax didn't change things much but connecting the ground wires together did. I don't know enough about electronics to know why.



I need to pick up a DPDT switch to switch between backup camera and video feed. I haven't decided whether to just have a single RCA video input or do something fancier. For example, the iPod uses a four pin connect that doubles as the headphone jack so connecting the 2 channels of audio + video that way would be very stealthy. It would be easier, though, to just use the AUX input for audio and one RCA connector for video.

Addendum: I guess I really only need an SPDT switch since the ground wires will be common and I will only be switching the positive video leads. (I think...drill holes in dash first and find out eventually)
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Thanks WT. I would also be interested in getting the spread sheets if you come across them.
For you and other interested here a great link to wiring information posted prior that you can gleam alot of great information on about wire colors and pinouts for our nav units. It actually has everything you need to know in it but its can be confusing to some folks too.
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...r-2007-tundra/

I am sure if your patient enough to wait for WileE writeup he will make it even easier to follow. He is a mighty smart cookie thats very helpfull. I am just to darn lazy to do write ups cause there so time consuming with stopping for pictures and note taking.

Oh StatCoder missing (floating) ground bad for electronic signals and good to see you got it all working now.
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I am sure if your patient enough to wait for WileE writeup he will make it even easier to follow. He is a mighty smart cookie thats very helpfull. I am just to darn lazy to do write ups cause there so time consuming with stopping for pictures and note taking.
Thanks, the wiring diagram clears some stuff up for me. Patients is a virtue. I have no problem wating for the write up as I am clueless on this stuff and I am learning as I go. I am just not sure how wilee finds the time to help us out and still handle all of NASA's request at the same time.


I have not pulled apart the top console yet, but does any on know if there is a factory harness wired up there for the rear entertainment option. I am hoping to install an after market lcd in the same spot and thought it may be possible to tap into it if it exist?
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I have not pulled apart the top console yet, but does any on know if there is a factory harness wired up there for the rear entertainment option. I am hoping to install an after market lcd in the same spot and thought it may be possible to tap into it if it exist?
From what I read and heard that there is not pre-wiring for this and is done if you order the rear entertainment system at port. Take a look at one of my links in my sig for link too were I just got cheap headrest DVD players, cheap and easy to install.
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From what I read and heard that there is not pre-wiring for this and is done if you order the rear entertainment system at port. Take a look at one of my links in my sig for link too were I just got cheap headrest DVD players, cheap and easy to install.
I think the RSES wiring harness comes with the RSES kit, however there is a harness preinstalled at the front of the overhead console which contains the rear camera video signal. So if you do my rear camera video hack then you could install the Toyota backup camera monitor or any other monitor overhead and use it for backup video, movies, or whatever.
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Here are some pics of the completed installation of the video input. The RCA video input was installed in the switch blank next to the AUX plug. This was chosen because the AV cables usually split right at the end so you really can't put the video jack six inches away from where you want to plug the audio in. This will, hopefully, look a little cleaner and less conspicuous than a variety of AV connectors going into the nav. The actual switch blank was swapped with one of ones next to the tow/haul switch because those less complicated in the back.





The first swtich turns on Wile E's speed pulse generator allowing all of the nav functions to be accessed while moving. The second swtich provides 12v current to the reverse wire input of the nav turning on the backup camera display. The third push button switch toggles between the stock backup camera input and the new video input.



There is a Radio Shack adapter that converts dual RCA to stereo headphone-plug.



The "Check Surroundings for safety" is an integral part of the backup camera display. I believe the nav software can not easily be changed to eliminate this. Fortunately, it appears below many widescreen displays. And, it never hurts to be reminded to look around once in a while.



All you really need to be able to do to accomplish this is take apart some dash components, unbolt the nav 10mm bolts, cut, strip, and solder some small wires (about 12 connections), and drill a few holes into plastic to install switches (all SPDT).

All parts were obtained at Radio Shack except for the SPG which was purchased from Wile E Tundra. This is not necessary to enable auxilliary video input. The 10mm bolts that hold the dash in are easily dropped further down into the dash but you can get them at AutoZone.

Try to get all of your parts at Radio Shack in one or two trips because they constantly are trying to sell you mobile phone services for some reason these days. It's strange that they sell parts to people who build their own electronics but every time I go in there, they are talking to someone about their mobile phones. I mean, you can't even drive 5 blocks or walk 30 yards in a mall without running into a mobile phone store or booth so I believe I will be able to find a mobile phone store when I need one once every two years or so. I'm in there to buy a $3 switch and it's "Who's your mobile phone provider?" I'm wondering what I can say to get them to shut up about it next time.

I'm not really good at documenting wiring schematics but I will be happy to monitor this thread, daily, and answer whatever specific questions anyone has. And, of course, never watch video from your video iPod or portable DVD player while driving...this is only for playing video games on the highway.
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Looks great stat! Is that digital tempature read out standard on the limited? I have not seen that before.
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That's the standard dual zone climate control standard on the Limited. Taking the dash apart, though, and handling the plastic modules make you wonder, though, about the price premium you paid for these options. They feel like plastic handheld video game units. The can't cost very much to make.
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any wiring diagram to have the aux video input yet ?
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I don't have a wiring diagram, however, this is how I did it:

You need several feet of wire and two SPDT switches.


The green wire in the grey connector in the pic below is the reverse signal (Wile E's pic) . 12 volts into the nav via this wire turns on the backup camera screen display. So, the end of the green wire that leads to the nav is soldered into the middle connector of the SPDT switch. Then the other end of the cut green wire attaches to one of the end connector and the other end connnector is attached to any 12v source such as the grey wire of the cigarette lighter. So, this switch turns on/off the backup display.



To intercept the video feed of the backup camera, find this connector.

Pin 22 is the positive lead for the video signal
Pin 23 is the negative lead for the video signal

So, cut these wires and connect the nav end to the middle connector of the other SPDT switch, the other cut end to one of the end connectors, and the other end connect to the inside lead of an RCA female connector



The all three ground wires: two from pin 22 and one from the rca female jack all get soldered together.

So the second switch toggles between the backup camera feed and the aux video feed.

Get one of these adapters to use in the aux audio input.


I know this probably isn't completely understandable but I'll be happy to answer any questions. The thread below describes the backup camera video feed in more detail:

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...r-2007-tundra/
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sweet i know what i am doing today and sunday thanks
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