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This is a discussion thread titled "Tundra Diesel", within the Tundra forum, part of the Truck Forums category.
LOL! I just traded in my 05 Cummins for the 08 Tundra and one of the reasons behind it was diesel will hit $5 per gallon with gas at $4 per gallon by the summer.
LOL! I just traded in my 05 Cummins for the 08 Tundra and one of the reasons behind it was diesel will hit $5 per gallon with gas at $4 per gallon by the summer.
but dont you get more MPG on diesel?
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Originally Posted by dirccooley
Try tieing a rope from your nuts to the big toe on your Right foot. That should help you ease into the gas pedal a litte better.
not really. Hell an 02 stroker 4x4 CC will only get 17-18 highway. My old 97 stroker regular cab, 5 spd, 4x4 got 22-23 on the highway. (both bone stock)
With gas at $3.30 and diesel at $3.80 and the gasser getting 16MPG, you'd have to get 19MPG with the diesel jsut to break even on mileage. That's not counting the higher maintenance costs of a diesel.
Instead of focusing on torque/power figures with the diesel (i.e.: 650 ft lb neighborhood currently) I wish the manufacturers would reduce the power ( to say 475-500 ft lbs) and apply it to mileage.
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My 05 Ram with the Cummins 325hp/610tq got about 12mpg city and 18mpg highway with 33.5x12x17 inch Mud Terrain tires. With stock tires it was 13mpg city and 20mpg highway.
With my new Tunda I'm getting about 12mpg city and 18mpg highway. Diesel option cost me $6k for my Ram and diesel is about 10% to 15% more than gas. Factor in all that and gas will be cheaper for the first 100k miles of driving. Now if you're towing all the time then diesel will be cheaper in the long haul.
Personally, I think it is time for Toyota to introduce a diesel into thier line up. For the most part they do get better fuel economy then gas (especially considering the power output). And if theres a diesel ever built that does deliver 21 plus mpg (maybe even closer to 30) I think Toyota will be the ones to build it.
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Unless Toyota decides to "subsidize" the diesel trucks, which I doubt, they will be more expensive than a comparable gas truck because a diesel engine, by design, has to be built with much stronger internal parts than a gas engine and is therefore, more expensive to produce.
You have to factor the higher purchase price into the fuel savings equation too. On GM 3/4 ton trucks, the "Duramax" is worth +/- $6k as I recall. Even at $5/gallon that's about 50 fill-ups.
Out here in NM they will sell like HOT CAKES, too many Horse Trailers & Farm Equipment and hay to haul and these guys will create a market for the Toyota diesel. They are tired of their other diesels being in shop being worked on and as long as it pulls and is reliable they will pay, and if the perform anything close to a Dodge Cummins or better they will sell out here!! I have seen those guys pulling House trailers on I-25 with ease!! asked dealer a couple hours ago if the thing would be here in 09 or 10 and he would not say?
not really. Hell an 02 stroker 4x4 CC will only get 17-18 highway. My old 97 stroker regular cab, 5 spd, 4x4 got 22-23 on the highway. (both bone stock)
With gas at $3.30 and diesel at $3.80 and the gasser getting 16MPG, you'd have to get 19MPG with the diesel jsut to break even on mileage. That's not counting the higher maintenance costs of a diesel.
Instead of focusing on torque/power figures with the diesel (i.e.: 650 ft lb neighborhood currently) I wish the manufacturers would reduce the power ( to say 475-500 ft lbs) and apply it to mileage.
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Originally Posted by Sequoia2003
My 05 Ram with the Cummins 325hp/610tq got about 12mpg city and 18mpg highway with 33.5x12x17 inch Mud Terrain tires. With stock tires it was 13mpg city and 20mpg highway.
With my new Tunda I'm getting about 12mpg city and 18mpg highway. Diesel option cost me $6k for my Ram and diesel is about 10% to 15% more than gas. Factor in all that and gas will be cheaper for the first 100k miles of driving. Now if you're towing all the time then diesel will be cheaper in the long haul.
wow i didnt know that
i guess if your not towing as much or just a week end warrior then gas would be best.
back in asia toyota diesels seems pretty economical? but i guess they have pretty small diesel motors too
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Originally Posted by dirccooley
Try tieing a rope from your nuts to the big toe on your Right foot. That should help you ease into the gas pedal a litte better.
Possibly. In Australia, according to government estimates, the Land Cruiser with the 4.7l V8 gasoline (same engine as US Tundra) gets 16.x mpg, the 4.5l V8 diesel gets 23.x mpg, about 50% better mpg.
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one more thing to think about...
You have to change out the fuel filter which cost up to $75 every 10k miles and an oil chan ge will run you $80 because you'll need 3 gallons of oil to fill it up.
one more thing to think about...
You have to change out the fuel filter which cost up to $75 every 10k miles and an oil chan ge will run you $80 because you'll need 3 gallons of oil to fill it up.
Diesel is more expensive
Oil Change is very expensive
Need fuel filter to be changed often also
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More money, if you use it as a daily driver
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