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This is a discussion thread titled "Looking For Tundra Comparison Tow Test", within the Tundra forum, part of the Truck Forums category.
I need a little help locating a thread that was posted here a while back. I don't know what the name of the thread was, but I remembered it was a comparison tow test with the Tundra against Ford, Chevy and Dodge 3/4 ton diesel and the Tundra won. Please help and post a link to the web site if you find it.
Thanks in advanced!
Sam
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Thanks Fire Mike! But I don't think that is the correct link. At least I couldn't find the info I was looking for. Maybe I missed it, but I will read through it again.
The link I was looking for was post by some member here late last year and it showed that the Tundra perform better than the other models 3/4 ton diesel trucks in acceleration from 0-60, 40-70 passing power and and stopping distance etc. If anyone can find that, please let me know.
Again, thanks in advanced!
Sam
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That info should be threre. I read that actual Motor Trend magazine article about the truck of the year, and it had that comparison in it. I'd imagine it would be in that online one too (I could be wrong too)
I need a little help locating a thread that was posted here a while back. I don't know what the name of the thread was, but I remembered it was a comparison tow test with the Tundra against Ford, Chevy and Dodge 3/4 ton diesel and the Tundra won. Please help and post a link to the web site if you find it.
Thanks in advanced!
Sam
The 5,700lb Tundra won because of physics is in their favor. The Tundra is 1,500lbs lighter, uses smaller axles (10.5 versus 11.5). If you're into how fast you can tow a 10,000lb flat trailer (little wind resistance) from 0 to 60 the Tundra won by a second or two. Now put a 10,000lb fifth wheel and then redo the test and get back to me. Now if you're talking about Gas 3/4 ton versus Tundra then that would be a different topic.
I've driven the Tundra for a month now and it is now where close to the heavy duty of my 05 Ram Cummins. The Tundra is a 1/2 ton pickup just like the Chevy, Ford and Dodge with a kick *** motor and a tough @ss rear end. All you Tundra owners please go rent a Ford or a Dodge 3/4 Diesel and then tell me the Tundra is a 3/4 ton.
Even my wife made a comment how light and car like the Tundra feels compared to the Dodge. She also said that she like the girthy feel of the Dodge and that she felt safer in it. I tried to explain to here that the Tundra is probably just as safe if not safer because the Tundra has side air bags and curtains. She still thinks the Tundra is wimpier than the Ram and I agree. In the end I like the Tundra just as much and it's a better rig for me now because I don't tow much anymore.
Last edited by Sequoia2003; 03-18-2008 at 12:03 PM.
I understand what you mean, but this is not about towing 10,000 lbs or more. What I'm interested in finding this is to show friends and fellow bass fishermen that the Tundra is the best half-ton truck for towing a bass boat. Bass boats commonly weight in the range of 2500 - 5000 lbs MAX and one does NOT need a 3/4 ton diesel in order to tow it efficiently. The Tundra will do just fine and did outperformed the 3/4 ton diesel trucks just like what the comparison test has shown.
I go to other forum relating to bass fishing and in that forum, there were some bass fishermen in the forum that was interested in the new Tundra and asked the questions regarding regular half-ton truck will do the job OK. My statement was it will do just fine, but many there don't agree and think diesel would be the best way to go. Well, I disagree because we're not talking about towing super heavy trailers, but a bass boats and nothing else. That was my point in an attemp to prove that you don't need a 3/4 ton diesel to tow less than 5K pounds.
Fire Mike,
I will re-read the comparison test again to find it. I was skimming through it the other day so I might of miss it.
EDIT: Found it Mike. It was right there in those charts all along. It could of bite me if it was a snake.
Thanks,
Sam
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Saying the Tundra is no diesel truck is like beating a dead horse...We already know it is not a BIG BADA$$ DIESEL...DIESEL TRUCKS ARE THE BEST EVER LOL...THEY ARE GODS IN THE TRUCK WORLD! Our "wimpy" Tundras will whoop the crap out of any of those 3/4 and 1 ton GAS Chevy's, Ford's, or Dodges. Comparing a diesel 1 ton to a gas Tundra is like comparing a Corvette Z06 to a Mini Cooper S.
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I understand what you mean, but this is not about towing 10,000 lbs or more. What I'm interested in finding this is to show friends and fellow bass fishermen that the Tundra is the best half-ton truck for towing a bass boat. Bass boats commonly weight in the range of 2500 - 5000 lbs MAX and one does NOT need a 3/4 ton diesel in order to tow it efficiently. The Tundra will do just fine and did outperformed the 3/4 ton diesel trucks just like what the comparison test has shown.
I go to other forum relating to bass fishing and in that forum, there were some bass fishermen in the forum that was interested in the new Tundra and asked the questions regarding regular half-ton truck will do the job OK. My statement was it will do just fine, but many there don't agree and think diesel would be the best way to go. Well, I disagree because we're not talking about towing super heavy trailers, but a bass boats and nothing else. That was my point in an attemp to prove that you don't need a 3/4 ton diesel to tow less than 5K pounds.
Fire Mike,
I will re-read the comparison test again to find it. I was skimming through it the other day so I might of miss it.
Thanks,
Even a Honda Ridgeline can tow a Bass boat. Yeah if your into drag racing towing a bass boat then the Tundra is the truck to have.
Last edited by Sequoia2003; 03-20-2008 at 02:32 PM.
Here are excerpts from road tests conducted by Consumer Reports. Its a subscription site so giving you a link will not help. As you can see the Tundar was much quicker towing a 7,500 pound trailer than a Ram 2500 with turbodiesel.
While the gasoline 2500 has a weight similar to the Tundra's, the diesel weighs about a thousand pounds more. This certainly will impact acceleration. I tested a Ram 2500 diesel when shopping for my Tundra. The engine was awesome. Everything else was crap. It seemed cheaply made. It reminded me of a truck from the '70s. Pretty basic. Hope this helps.
The 2500 is cumbersome. Interior noise in the Ram is fairly quiet, with some wind, road, and engine thrum. The 2500, which lacks ESC, was predictable but slow in our emergency-handling tests. The larger 2500 rides atrociously on almost any road. Even with its powerful six-cylinder Cummins turbodiesel and smooth six-speed transmission, the 2500 was slower than the 1500 except when towing. The 1500 pulled our 7,400-pound trailer to 60 mph in 20.5 seconds. The 2500 took 18.9 seconds. Full-time 4WD is available on the 1500. The 1500's braking was mediocre. The 2500's was poor, and stops on wet pavement exceeded 200 feet. Both Rams easily navigated our off-road courses, but the ride was choppy.
The Tundra is a very able off-roader, despite its low-hanging running boards. It pulled our 7,400-pound trailer to 60 mph in a very quick 16.1 seconds. The 381-hp, 5.7-liter V8 delivers very strong performance, making the Tundra notably quicker than other competing trucks. It is mated with a six-speed transmission that shifts quite smoothly. The transmission also has Sport and Tow modes, which reprogram the shift points. Our truck averaged 15 mpg overall. While still poor, it is the best of its type by a slender margin. With the optional TRD package, the Tundra's ride is stiff and jittery even on the highway. We test-drove a short-bed CrewMax model without TRD and found it rode better. Cabin noise is mostly well-suppressed. The Tundra handles well in normal driving, but steering lacks feel. The rear wheels spin easily, even on dry surfaces. In our emergency-handling tests the Tundra reached its limits of tire adhesion early on, and its top speed navigating our emergency avoidance maneuver was quite low. Standard electronic stability control helped keep it on course. A 49-foot turning circle is a hindrance when parking. Braking was the best among competing models but was still mediocre, with long stops on both wet and dry pavement.
Even a Honda Ridgeline can tow a Bass boat. Yeah if your into drag racing towing a bass boat then the Tundra is the truck to have.
Yeah. I'm sure it can, but wouldn't do so well going up the hills though.
As for drag racing towing a bass boat... You betcha these guys do. They bragged about it all the times. One of the member, Franklin, claims the new Tundra will not keep up with him going 90 MPH on the HWY with his 3/4 Ram diesel. I will have to disagree with that and suprise him a little when time comes.
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I beat a Saturn Vue ricer kid when pulling my 2200lb jet boat lol. It was so funny because I don't think he realized I was pulling a boat at the light and then when I passed him he probably started crying lol.
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-THE MONSTROUS 5.7
-6SPD AUTO
-STEBEL 300HZ TRUCK HORN+2 FACTORY HORNS
-K&N 77 SERIES INTAKE
-TOYTEC 3" LIFT
-DEBADGED
-SYLVANIA H9 LOW BEAM MOD (2100 LUMENS)
-HIR1 HI BEAM MOD (2350 LUMENS)
-SILVERSTAR EURO SIGNALS
-BLACK HEADLIGHT MOD
-BLACK BADGE
-JBL 440W SYSTEM W/ NAV W/ BACKUP CAM
-SONAR
-ESCORT PASSPORT 8500 X50 RADAR
-MOTO METAL 951 18" RIMS
-MAGNAFLOW 14" 2 IN/2 OUT CATBACK EXHAUST -SYSTEM WITH 4" MAGNAFLOW TIPS
-BFG TA KO 285/65/18's!!(32.7")
-CHROME TOYOTA NERF BARS
-BEDLINER
"As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I have no fear because I am the meanest motherf*cker in the valley"
Kinda funny I had my best two "races" when I pulled up to a stale light in the right lane with a 95 or so F150 in the left. The two dudes got all wound up as they starting revving the motor and giving me the eye. When the light turned , I hammered it and pulled about 3/4 length on them. I let off as we hit the speed limit of 50 mph. Then the next light turned red so they stopped again and then along I came. This time the guy really throttles the ole Ford up. The light turns green and away we go again. This time I only can pull about 1/2 truck length on them before I let them go. Not too bad considering I was pulling a 20 ft. trailer with my race car on it !
Here are excerpts from road tests conducted by Consumer Reports. Its a subscription site so giving you a link will not help. As you can see the Tundar was much quicker towing a 7,500 pound trailer than a Ram 2500 with turbodiesel.
While the gasoline 2500 has a weight similar to the Tundra's, the diesel weighs about a thousand pounds more. This certainly will impact acceleration. I tested a Ram 2500 diesel when shopping for my Tundra. The engine was awesome. Everything else was crap. It seemed cheaply made. It reminded me of a truck from the '70s. Pretty basic. Hope this helps.
The 2500 is cumbersome. Interior noise in the Ram is fairly quiet, with some wind, road, and engine thrum. The 2500, which lacks ESC, was predictable but slow in our emergency-handling tests. The larger 2500 rides atrociously on almost any road. Even with its powerful six-cylinder Cummins turbodiesel and smooth six-speed transmission, the 2500 was slower than the 1500 except when towing. The 1500 pulled our 7,400-pound trailer to 60 mph in 20.5 seconds. The 2500 took 18.9 seconds. Full-time 4WD is available on the 1500. The 1500's braking was mediocre. The 2500's was poor, and stops on wet pavement exceeded 200 feet. Both Rams easily navigated our off-road courses, but the ride was choppy.
The Tundra is a very able off-roader, despite its low-hanging running boards. It pulled our 7,400-pound trailer to 60 mph in a very quick 16.1 seconds. The 381-hp, 5.7-liter V8 delivers very strong performance, making the Tundra notably quicker than other competing trucks. It is mated with a six-speed transmission that shifts quite smoothly. The transmission also has Sport and Tow modes, which reprogram the shift points. Our truck averaged 15 mpg overall. While still poor, it is the best of its type by a slender margin. With the optional TRD package, the Tundra's ride is stiff and jittery even on the highway. We test-drove a short-bed CrewMax model without TRD and found it rode better. Cabin noise is mostly well-suppressed. The Tundra handles well in normal driving, but steering lacks feel. The rear wheels spin easily, even on dry surfaces. In our emergency-handling tests the Tundra reached its limits of tire adhesion early on, and its top speed navigating our emergency avoidance maneuver was quite low. Standard electronic stability control helped keep it on course. A 49-foot turning circle is a hindrance when parking. Braking was the best among competing models but was still mediocre, with long stops on both wet and dry pavement.
Your opinion of the Ram shines bias IMO. The Ram not 70's ish... The Ram is almost as nice as the Tundra. If the Tundra is a 8 out of 10 for interior than the Ram is a 7 out of 10. For exterior I would put them dead even.
Yeah. I'm sure it can, but wouldn't do so well going up the hills though.
As for drag racing towing a bass boat... You betcha these guys do. They bragged about it all the times. One of the member, Franklin, claims the new Tundra will not keep up with him going 90 MPH on the HWY with his 3/4 Ram diesel. I will have to disagree with that and suprise him a little when time comes.
Wow, I did not know that! Must be some very interesting conversations around the docks. I wish I could be a fly on the wall for those.
Kinda funny I had my best two "races" when I pulled up to a stale light in the right lane with a 95 or so F150 in the left. The two dudes got all wound up as they starting revving the motor and giving me the eye. When the light turned , I hammered it and pulled about 3/4 length on them. I let off as we hit the speed limit of 50 mph. Then the next light turned red so they stopped again and then along I came. This time the guy really throttles the ole Ford up. The light turns green and away we go again. This time I only can pull about 1/2 truck length on them before I let them go. Not too bad considering I was pulling a 20 ft. trailer with my race car on it !
Sounds like the old Dodge Hemi Commercials from 2003 when the guy was towing his old Challenger on a flat bed trailer behind his Ram 1500 Hemi and the dorks in the Dart ask him if that thing got a Hemi after he kicked their @ss.
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