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Old 03-17-2008, 11:45 AM
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Got this email from my sister about how to save money with gas prices going up. Enjoy!

TIPS ON PUMPING GAS

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for a bout 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallo n..

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CAwe deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel & nbsp;and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.< SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance be tween the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some f the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

WHERE TO BUY USAGAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON

Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco........................ ....62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel

Here are some large companies that do not import Mid dle Eastern oil:

Sunoco..................0 barrels

Conoco..................0 barrels

Sinclair.................0 barrels

B P/Phillips............0 barrels

Hess.......................0 barrels

ARC0....................0 barrels

If you go to Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station locations near you.

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:53 AM
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Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel & nbsp;and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.

i doubt that this is true. the underground tanks are buried at a specific depth so the heat changes above ground do not affect the underground tanks. i think i heard that somewhere else on this forum also.
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Us with basements will agree. Whether it's 20 below zero, or 101 in the summer, a basement below the frostline stays within 5 degrees of 50 above all year around.
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To bad the top tier fuel(in my area) is from importation,guess I have no choice
Burning the cheaper "Flash Gas" from Sam's/WalMarts isnt an option.
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Sunoco is hardly cheap gas..
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I get my best mileage when I not driving my truck but the towns vehicle
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I just found this is another regular message designed to frighten the consumers buying gasoline.

See where the template for that comes from:

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Tips on Pumping Gas

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Modern gas stations have thier tanks in underground vaults; they are no longer just burried in the ground. I'm sure, like stated above, the temperature variance in these vaults is minimal throughout the day.
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Us with basements will agree. Whether it's 20 below zero, or 101 in the summer, a basement below the frostline stays within 5 degrees of 50 above all year around.
That's the secret to good beer and wine! In Napa Valley they dig tunnels underground to ferment and store wine - the temperature stays very consistent within a degree or two during the whole year.
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Isn't gasoline a commodity like water flowing through your house making it hard to determine actually where the gasoline actually comes from? I have heard that the differences between brands is simply a result of the addives that are added to the fuel.
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Isn't gasoline a commodity like water flowing through your house making it hard to determine actually where the gasoline actually comes from? I have heard that the differences between brands is simply a result of the addives that are added to the fuel.
Well as far as the source of the oil, I know Citgo is 100% Venezuelan.

It should be relatively easy to determine where the oil comes from as it either comes from a pipe or a ship to a specific company's refinery.
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