Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
hi, what amaze's me is so many people talk without knowing who what when where why how, because.
simplely amazing.
do you think toyota of all company's would sell you something that is going to mess up? i know not. they have really smart people always thinking. thats why toyota's are the #1 best selling, best running vehicles on the road.
have they made mistake's of course they have, but compare them too all other's there mile's ahead. if they approve the TRD SUPERCHAGER, not a turbo, they will make sure it work's corectly, with no ill effect's.
maybe just maybe, there are people who bought there 07 and 08 and now they want the trd supercharger, but -they might be already upside down. or in a lease., etc .
gorilla
P.S. if this supercharger really put's out more than 130+ HP and god only know's how much more torque. i'll be getting a new truck for sure. for 6g's come on.
well worth the money.
my my past experience is there supercharger's only put 50 more HP to the rear wheel's.
regardless what anyone has said or claimed, i know because toyota custom installer of all the supercharger's has said even the older tundra's put out 50 more horses to the rear wheel's and in his opinion ,none of them were worth 6+g's. for 50 horse power.. beside's they stoped making them for the tundra's many reasons.
but if they make a new 1 , they already made sure that the internal's are strong enough to withhold the surge of power. and able to suck all the air & fuel needed.
BUT, we shall see, won't we, because they are going to sell like hot cake's.
by the way, my dealer won't take a order , because the trd supercharger isn't approved yet by toyota.
so it's like selling a car that doesn't exist yet.
Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
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Originally Posted by GORILLA
hi, what amaze's me is so many people talk without knowing who what when where why how, because.
simplely amazing.
do you think toyota of all company's would sell you something that is going to mess up? i know not. they have really smart people always thinking. thats why toyota's are the #1 best selling, best running vehicles on the road.
have they made mistake's of course they have, but compare them too all other's there mile's ahead. if they approve the TRD SUPERCHAGER, not a turbo, they will make sure it work's corectly, with no ill effect's.
maybe just maybe, there are people who bought there 07 and 08 and now they want the trd supercharger, but -they might be already upside down. or in a lease., etc .
gorilla
P.S. if this supercharger really put's out more than 130+ HP and god only know's how much more torque. i'll be getting a new truck for sure. for 6g's come on.
well worth the money.
my my past experience is there supercharger's only put 50 more HP to the rear wheel's.
regardless what anyone has said or claimed, i know because toyota custom installer of all the supercharger's has said even the older tundra's put out 50 more horses to the rear wheel's and in his opinion ,none of them were worth 6+g's. for 50 horse power.. beside's they stoped making them for the tundra's many reasons.
but if they make a new 1 , they already made sure that the internal's are strong enough to withhold the surge of power. and able to suck all the air & fuel needed.
BUT, we shall see, won't we, because they are going to sell like hot cake's.
by the way, my dealer won't take a order , because the trd supercharger isn't approved yet by toyota.
so it's like selling a car that doesn't exist yet.
Toyota will gladly sell you something that is virtually useless in order to turn a profit, like any major corporation in the world.
As a previous poster has mentioned, superchargers don't significantly reduce air temperature, so for some applications and some different supercharger types, intercoolers are useless. As for the type of intercooler discribed (with pictures) in the first post of this thread, it will be even less useful then a typical intercooler because it lacks contact area and in-contact time to achieve any significant cooling.
Now if there is intercooling piping beneath what can be seen in the pictures, then it might be effective, but from every angle I look at them, all I see is a 2" wide flange between the air filter outlet pipe and the engine inlet pipe.
I believe your speculating at best,where does it say you must have the TRD box as part of the S/C kit ?
Nowhere - because the S/C will work just fine with the stock filter/airbox. However, at higher HP ratings the stock equipment will become the most restrictive part of the airflow to the supercharger. So for maximum power a less restrictive intake must be used. This may make a 10-50 HP difference - Hard to tell without dynoing.
Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
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Originally Posted by Stanton49
As a previous poster has mentioned, superchargers don't significantly reduce air temperature, so for some applications and some different supercharger types, intercoolers are useless. As for the type of intercooler discribed (with pictures) in the first post of this thread, it will be even less useful then a typical intercooler because it lacks contact area and in-contact time to achieve any significant cooling.
Now if there is intercooling piping beneath what can be seen in the pictures, then it might be effective, but from every angle I look at them, all I see is a 2" wide flange between the air filter outlet pipe and the engine inlet pipe.
I think what you're looking at is the throttle body coolant lines, not intercooler lines.
If you look at the top, back of the supercharger, you'll see two hoses coming out. I'm almost certain these are the intercooler water lines. My guess is that the intercooler sits right in the middle of the big black box. The supercharger sits below it and the compressed air passes upwards, through the intercooler then back down the sides of the box into the manifolds.
Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
hi,
we shall see, won't we, if toyota give's the go ahead.
dyno's , track run's, even run's against each other, stock VS supercharged.
the #'s will show, scan guage's - will show cai temp, radiator temp, etc.
and i'm sure there will be aftermarket improvement's available, as there always are.
well ,1 thing is for sure, if approved, there won't be many left on the shelf, within the
1st week of release.
this is going to boost toyota tundra sale's 1000%.
gorilla
Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
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Originally Posted by TundraBay
+TRD CAI
+Headers
+Dual Exhaust
+Tuning?
= 120 extra horses. . . ?
No ricer math please.......50+- HP at best with ALL those ads. (and at $2000+)
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Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
lol! I have been watching this thread for a while. Guys nobody is an expert yet on this supercharger. Everybody is guessing! TRD has invested a whole lot of money in this system. First off manufacturers don't like power adders. The cost goes up and now you have reliability issues. A lot of man hours were put into this project so that it wouldn't tear the truck up. If its 50 hp or 100hp just be happy you can buy something from toyota that will give you that kind of gain without voiding your warranty. And if its to expensive, don't buy it. Theres not a lot of people out there is can drop $5000+ at one time. Its not for everyone! If you want to go fast for cheap buy nitrous. But don't go overboard. Its still your everyday truck. For me Im buying one regaurdless of power gain. Why because I can afford it! And their is nothing better in this life than supercharger whine.
Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
I'm willing to bet the net gains to the rear wheels will be somewhere in the 80-100 hp range together with exhaust and intake. A smaller pulley might be worth it and would provide more boost initially down low, but toyota will likely limit the boost electronically. It's nice to know the stock airbox is not a hugely limiting item in the airflow dept (at least if you remove the HC screen). Just as with the older SC on previous Tundras we will be dealing with tuning limitations that necessitate piggy back controllers to get it where we want to be, at least in theory.
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Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
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Originally Posted by RONE
No way. I'll bet $100 that with all those mods you'd get at least an additional 80rwhp.
I'd take that bet.
Unfortunately, I'm not willing to come up with the time or $$$ to prove it.
I do base my opinion on years of experience with Ford motors, both 302/351 and Mod motors.
While those motors NEEDED a lot of aftermarket to awaken them, the Toy 5.7 is a pretty efficient design from the get go.
I don't think I need to tell you; but while headers by themselves may add 20HP and cat back exhaust may add 15; together you may see 25HP.
And that 5HP gain with CAI may not even show up after an exhaust swap.
You cannot add all the parts up individually and come up with a figure(ricer math)......there's a lot of overlap.
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Re: Coming Soon for the Tundra---TRD Supercharged 5.7 Sequoia - Pics inside!!
well, check out speed channel on 6/20------- two guys garage........... Bob from TRD will be on that show and they will be showing the TRD supercharger install on a Toyota FJ with dyno runs, now here's the wild part. They do not suggest a CAI with the supercharger, but they put one on this FJ and gained 22 horsepower AT THE FLYWHEEL,(I thought it was the wheels but I was wrong) this info is from someone that was there(can't say who). Now figure that on a V8 and not a V6.
TRD doesn't suggest CAI kits with the superchargers because of emission reasons, but in states that have less "stringent" checking then who knows......
get your gears turning..............
Mark
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