I know there has been a LOT of call for the diesel in a Tundra, but with the way fuel prices are going, I'm not sure anyone will be able to afford one in 2010. Thanx a million for the update though....
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I know there has been a LOT of call for the diesel in a Tundra, but with the way fuel prices are going, I'm not sure anyone will be able to afford one in 2010. Thanx a million for the update though....
Well it's supposely form what I read release in 2009 as 2010 if I'm not mistaken. But the people that buy Ford, Chevy, and Dodge diesels can come to Toyota so they have more choices.
I guess we all want diesel for different reasons mine being the efficiencies we had before they had to put all the EPA crap on them.
I agree. I loved diesels before the EPA junk. I loved the mileage you got, the hauling capability, the sound, the smell, and the fact that you get more diesel out of a barrel of oil than gasoline.
Thanks to the greenies of the USA....our diesel trucks are now a lot less efficient and a lot more expensive.
Way to save the environment
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I believe with that the diesel has a very viable niche in the market place. Other than the increase up front out of pocket expense for the option the diesel will cost less to operate as the 5.7.
For example:
Gas engine-
Fuel is now average of $3.93 per gallon at 16mpg and 26 gallon fuel tank =
Cost to fill up=$102.18
Range=416 miles Average cost per mile=24.5 Cents
Diesel engine-
Fuel is now average of $4.72 per gallon at 22mpg (est.) and 26 gallon fuel tank =
Cost to fill up=$122.72
Range= 572 miles Average cost per mile=21.45 Cents
The diesel cost 3 cents per mile to operate and after 167,000 miles you will make up the difference in the $5,000 cost of the diesel engine
The cost recoup even with your numbers would take far too long ofr most consumers to see any benefit. Never mind the fact that I get 17.5-19MPG highway. So my operating cost per mile is more like 22.2 to 20.7 cents.
I like diesels, and think a 1/2 ton Tundra diesel would be cool, and the extra range would be nice. However at the cost of the motor and the negligible operating cost savings (or loss) a diesel isn't cool enough.
I dont know anyone that gets the sticker MPG with their Diesel rigs, most are below the specs (consider our altitude), and as another person said it takes a long time to re-coup but if your just looking for a better feel at the pump go for it. I think Diesel will continue to outpace Gas and thats not a good sign for the Diesel crowd, I know a lot of folks parking them right now.
I average 15 in my truck and I promise in the Diesel it will be 18 at best on average if that.
167K miles is a long time and things change faster than that. Thats 7500 gallons of fuel, wow!
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$50k or better for a new truck and diesel at $5.50 - $6.00 per gallon, you'll need a six figure income and be content to eat noodles out of a cup. If fuel prices don't come down, there's gonna be more of a demand for early 80's type Yota's that were bullet proof and got great gas mileage versus some of these full size fuel guzzling pigs. I had an 85 Toyota 4Runner back in the day. That truck got 25 mpg on the highway. Wish I still had it in its brand new condition. I'd dump my Tundra in a heartbeat...
The diesel cost 3 cents per mile to operate and after 167,000 miles you will make up the difference in the $5,000 cost of the diesel engine[/quote]
At the rate i drive my tundra (10k per year), that would be in 2024. I don't think i'd keep a truck long enough to see the benefit.
From what i understand, unless more natural gas is forced on those homeowners with oil burning furnaces. Diesel will continue to rise about the same rate as it has, if not faster.
Now if it got high 20's mpg, maybe i'd consider it. But not for 22mpg.
the real savings with the diesel show during the towing, not when cruising empty down the flat hwy.
I would like to get better mileage when towing because of the small fuel tank in the tundra = to many stops for fuel . But i'm also afraid if the GVW is not raised with increased weight of the diesel you won't be able to tow any thing with out being over weight .
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I believe with that the diesel has a very viable niche in the market place. Other than the increase up front out of pocket expense for the option the diesel will cost less to operate as the 5.7.
For example:
Gas engine-
Fuel is now average of $3.93 per gallon at 16mpg and 26 gallon fuel tank =
Cost to fill up=$102.18
Range=416 miles Average cost per mile=24.5 Cents
Diesel engine-
Fuel is now average of $4.72 per gallon at 22mpg (est.) and 26 gallon fuel tank =
Cost to fill up=$122.72
Range= 572 miles Average cost per mile=21.45 Cents
The diesel cost 3 cents per mile to operate and after 167,000 miles you w
ill make up the difference in the $5,000 cost of the diesel engine
I dont know anyone that gets the sticker MPG with their Diesel rigs, most are below the specs (consider our altitude), and as another person said it takes a long time to re-coup but if your just looking for a better feel at the pump go for it. I think Diesel will continue to outpace Gas and thats not a good sign for the Diesel crowd, I know a lot of folks parking them right now.
I average 15 in my truck and I promise in the Diesel it will be 18 at best on average if that.
167K miles is a long time and things change faster than that. Thats 7500 gallons of fuel, wow!
As far as i know all the diesels offered are in Heavy Duty trucks and are not required to have a estimated mpg figure. The powerstroke doesn't have a mpg figure and my lmm duramax (traded for the tundra) sure as hell didn't come with a mpg estimation. what you get for mpg is what you get in a HD diesel. now that being said, i got 18-21 highway and 16 city in the lmm. that was driving it like every light was a drag race. if you don't haul descent sized loads daily than stick to the spark ignition (gasser). i get 7-9 mpg hauling my enclosed snowmobile trailer in the winter. a diesel runs the same loaded or not so it should get at least 13 mpg under load.
Re: 4.5L Diesel on 2010 Tundra
Re: 4.5L Diesel on 2010 Tundra
if you don't haul descent sized loads daily than stick to the spark ignition (gasser). i get 7-9 mpg hauling my enclosed snowmobile trailer in the winter. a diesel runs the same loaded or not so it should get at least 13 mpg under load.
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