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Old 06-27-2008, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: 19.8mpg after HC removed!

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The HC filter is upstream of the oiled filter, so it wouldn't provide any protection between the filter and the MAF sensor anyway.
Isn't airflow going: filter->carbon filter->MAF? If so, then it would offer a bit of protection from over-oiling a filter.
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I removed the Carbon Filter and installed an Oiled K&N filter and have experienced absolutey NO problems. I actually think im running a bit lean so Im going to reset my ecm this weekend and see if that helps.
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Isn't airflow going: filter->carbon filter->MAF? If so, then it would offer a bit of protection from over-oiling a filter.
Thats also what I thought and why I wondered if removing the carbon filter and using a oiled filter posed any risk. The K&N link that Hotwheels provided seems to indicate there really isn't any real risk of oil getting on the MAF.

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Default Re: 19.8mpg after HC removed!

Just did it.
Disconected the - for approx 10 min. Truck started ,then died after 20 sec. or so, then I started it again and so far so good. Seem like a little more low end grunt, but only drove a mile so far.

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I just did it and ran my truck 30 miles . I unhooked battery for one half hour,truck started right up no problem. I will never know if this works or not my milage varies to much. I just hope this helps when I tow, this is when one mpg will help a lot.
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I get an honest 19+ mpg on the highway on a regular basis, however I dont drive 80 mph on road trips more like 65. If many of you would slow the hell down your mileage would be much improved. Cant imagine getting 15 mpg on the highway in these trucks driving at a reasonable speed.
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I get an honest 19+ mpg on the highway on a regular basis, however I dont drive 80 mph on road trips more like 65. If many of you would slow the hell down your mileage would be much improved. Cant imagine getting 15 mpg on the highway in these trucks driving at a reasonable speed.
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my 15.7 comes from back country roads doing 60 to 65, and city driving. I drive 55 daily miles to and from work, and its 50/50 country roads to city roads. I do have a trip up to WI in a couple weeks, so I will get an accurate measure of my MPG.
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Doesnt more air going in require more fuel and that in turn would lower your MPG??
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Doesnt more air going in require more fuel and that in turn would lower your MPG??
Not necessarily. If you can reduce the amount of energy required to draw in air for combustion, and then expel exhaust gases you can realize an improvement in fuel economy. This is because the power that was being used to do those other two functions can be used for other work. The gains won't be huge, but every little bit helps.

If economy was better if airflow were restricted we would have tiny air filters. If you would like to experiment by all means take some cardboard and cut it to shape to block a bunch of air flow then stick it in front of your air filter. Let us know what your results are.
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Default Re: 19.8mpg after HC removed!

I can,t believe this mod. I seem to of gone from 15 to 18.2 on interstate at 60 miles per hour. If this holds I'm going to be one happy camper. Now if I can increase my tow miles to 13 I'll be real happy.
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Default Re: 19.8mpg after HC removed!

Removed the HC filter and reset the ECM for 10 minutes. Already had a K&N high flow filter on a 4x2, stock sespension, LTD DC. Just completed a 142 mile trip for work on highways and interstate (set cruise at 72) and averaged 19.2mpg round trip. I will be doing a 260 mile trip Monday.

The biggest change I notice was the throttle response. Much better and smoother now. That alone made the 30sec. mod worth it. Now if only these aftermarket chips (Unichip, NYC) would actually increase the mpg. I might be able to get to 22mpg!
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Are all you guys serious? 19.2 MPG!!!??? I'm green with ENVY. My darn truck just loves taking money from my wallet. I get 14.8 MPG and it STAYS there! I removed the running boards and it gets 14.7 MPG, but with the factory running boards installed, it gets 14.8 MPG. Weird, must be due to aerodynamics factor or something. I will try the HC mod one day. And go with the unplugged ECM for 10 minutes as many of you doctors recommend it.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:45 AM
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I can,t believe this mod. I seem to of gone from 15 to 18.2 on interstate at 60 miles per hour. If this holds I'm going to be one happy camper. Now if I can increase my tow miles to 13 I'll be real happy.
There is NO way removing the carbon filter increased your fuel mileage by that much. Absolutely no way. I think you subconsciously biased your test by wanting to get better mileage and thus changed your driving habits to see how good of mileage you could get after this mod. This is a very common bias in all experiments, and is one of the very fist things you discuss in epidemiology and statistics courses. Short of doing a "blinded" experiment, everyone is going to notice an increase in throttle response because that's what they think they're supposed to notice. Just like giving a placebo.
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Default Re: 19.8mpg after HC removed!

I just averaged 19.7mpg on a 940mile round trip with the HC filter in place. Kept the cruise set at 67-74mph depending on the speed limit on the highway. I can't see removing the HC filter giving me another 1mpg but, I may try it next trip. It would be nice to have a 400 horse, 5000lbs rolling brick that gets 20+mpg on the highway.
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