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I believe these trucks do have a lot more potential. I am not sure if unichip can extract it all but we shall see. I was the one who video taped the trd tundras on the racetrack. I didn't own the new tundra yet so I wish I would have paid more attention to how the truck was driving. I know they were DC and we had 5 people in it (around 1200 lbs) and we accelerated up a hill. That thing pulled like a raped ape. I know TRD modified the trucks. What I wouldn't give to have one of those tunes. I know the second time around my brother sat in the back and said he saw the spedo at 115 mph and we were going much slower then the first time. Toyota may simply do this so that they can easily increase HP/TQ by making software changes and then marketing it as a more powerful engine as the years go on. I wouldn't be surprised if there is an extra 40hp just by simply retuning on a STOCK motor.
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I will also be hanging tight until I see some real data and owner experiences. I'm not ready to drop $600 on a tuner until I see some proof.
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I will also be hanging tight until I see some real data and owner experiences. I'm not ready to drop $600 on a tuner until I see some proof.
I can understand wanting to see dyno data, but by the time you get to read about owner experience the price will be back to somewhere around 8 bills.
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I can understand wanting to see dyno data, but by the time you get to read about owner experience the price will be back to somewhere around 8 bills.
Yeh that is a good point regarding the cost. I may reconsider...
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I'd still rather wait. I'm hearing some negative comments from owners that went to the S/C already. If their price jumps up $200, that tells me that they are over charging by $200 and I'll go elsewhere. By then there will be more options. You can't tell me that they are going to take a loss on 50 units. If they are making money at $600, $800 will be a rip off.
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I'd still rather wait. I'm hearing some negative comments from owners that went to the S/C already. If their price jumps up $200, that tells me that they are over charging by $200 and I'll go elsewhere. By then there will be more options. You can't tell me that they are going to take a loss on 50 units. If they are making money at $600, $800 will be a rip off.
guntech, you're missing the concept of the group buy here. They are offering it at a reduced price because of the bulk order. Same concept as buying a 50-pack of paper towel rolls at Costco or Sam's club for a few bucks cheaper than you can buy 50 individual rolls at Wal-Mart or FoodLion.
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Your truck runs a 9.1 @ 95mph in the 1/8?
Has to be a typo with the mph lol....
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LOL! Yep typo on on the mph........75. But yeah, my truck runs 9.142 in the 1/8th. Time slip in the 1/4mile time sticky.
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[quote=guntech;1070246]I'd still rather wait. I'm hearing some negative comments from owners that went to the S/C already.

What in the world does the supercharger have to do with this tuner?
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Some are thinking of using the tuner to get even more out of the supercharger and/or possibly fix some of the bogs and glitches that have appeared to date.
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Yeah I have read of the tuner being a possible solution to the super chargers problem with TM, and enhancing the sc performance in other aspects, but I can't see the logic in saying there may be problems with the TRD supercharger, so I am not going to buy the Unichip tuner.
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I'd still rather wait. I'm hearing some negative comments from owners that went to the S/C already. If their price jumps up $200, that tells me that they are over charging by $200 and I'll go elsewhere. By then there will be more options. You can't tell me that they are going to take a loss on 50 units. If they are making money at $600, $800 will be a rip off.
Wow man. S/C? There is retail price and wholesale price. 600 is an introductory wholesale price. 800 is retail. Who sells any product at a loss or even at cost? The whole purpose is to make money. By all means, please wait until others get their product. Once we get ours, if you still want one, I'll try to see if I can get a reduced rate just for you.
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i think it might be adventageous to wait and see if unichip is able to come out with maps for tundras that have intakes and exhaust. i think most tundra owners have invested in some type of intake and exhaust unit, therefore, it would be one of the most popular maps to order. i would also like to see if they will be able to remove the speed limiter as NOLA said they are working on. when this is done the package should be damn good since it will allow for even more power. 115 comes up pretty fast sometimes when u are on long stretches of interstate 5 (lol).

maybe they will address why the engine bogs after shifting into second gear and does not tac higher and faster after shifts(obvioulsly the torque management is still very prevelant). i think these engines still have more power that can be tapped out if they can release more torque management, then the truck will be even quicker without being supercharged.

im on standby to see what unichip does for the next batch of units (that i hope they will release soon covering the above listed parameters). if they cover these items then its a no brainer, because im sure the truck would be much quicker at all levels.
Mike with Unichip specifically mentioned to me that they were tweaking the torque management and shift points. Even when you think all nannies are off, they really aren't. Even if you take a stock hp truck and eliminate torque management and adjusted shift points and rev limits, it would be a much faster truck. Add in 40 more hp, and its a beast!
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Wow man. S/C? There is retail price and wholesale price. 600 is an introductory wholesale price. 800 is retail. Who sells any product at a loss or even at cost? The whole purpose is to make money. By all means, please wait until others get their product. Once we get ours, if you still want one, I'll try to see if I can get a reduced rate just for you.

Well, I think guntech's issue with the price is that you KNOW that this didn't cost them $600. When you buy a product, you intrinsically assign it a value in your head. When you buy a toaster, say, for $10, you decide in your mind that the value of the merchandise you're buying is worth that money.

Contrast that with a air conditioner start-up capacitor. I had to pay almost $175 for that, even though as an electrical engineer, I know that this part should sell for less than $10.

It's the same with the tuner: You know that the merchandise itself does not represent the value of what you're receiving. Now granted - a device like this chip has to recover their time investment to develop the information which goes into the chip, but you tend to dissociate that when you look at a chip (maybe it's more than a chip - I don't really know; I'm just guessing here) and you know that it can be bought for $10. They're NOT taking a loss on selling that chip for $600 - or even $100 - it's all a matter of how fast they want to recover their investment of the time they put in it.

My only interest in this device would be potential fuel savings, as I don't care about racing the truck. As such, I'm going to sit on the sidelines to see what kind of fuel improvement people see, and will then make a decision on how long it takes to recover the cost of the device versus the average fuel savings.

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If you have a complaint about the cost, please contact UNICHIP directly. WE have no control over how much they charge. I'm sure it has something to do with paying rent, electricity, food and such. Same reason everything else costs more than $10.

So, please stop the debate on the price.

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If you have a complaint about the cost, please contact UNICHIP directly. WE have no control over how much they charge. I'm sure it has something to do with paying rent, electricity, food and such. Same reason everything else costs more than $10.

So, please stop the debate on the price.

TundraSolutions is offering a platform to buy it at wholesale. If you choose not to participate, don't.
Thanks Tundradrenalin. You guys are just preaching to the choir regarding the price. We all know what the cost of the electrical components are, but what we pay for is the research, engineering, marketing, overhead, profit and the salaries of AMERICAN workers who depend on Unichip for their livelihood. Bringing up the fact that the components are under $100 is pointless. Supply and demand. Its Capitalism at its finest. If in your opinion its not worth the cost, its simple, don't buy it. Also, for those who have already expressed their opinion numerous times that it isn't worth it, we hear you. Additional posts of the same is not necessary. Please allow those of us who can't wait to install our tuners to enjoy this thread. thanks.
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