New Toy Hauler - Towing Help

[ThreeSixT]

Just picked up this bad boy at an RV Clearance Sale to support my Track Day / Racing habbit.





Its a 25 footer and the weight specs state:

Hitch Weight 1,040 lbs
Dry Weight 7,240 lbs
Gross Weight 13,040 lbs
Cargo Weight 5,800 lbs
Axle Weight 12,000 lbs

The dealer told me the dry weight was 8,300 lbs, so I thought I would be fine even with the bike and other gear loaded in (500 lbs), but that seems like just the Hitch and Dry Weight combined. Can someone shed some light on this? Also, this is a travel trailer, not a 5th wheeler. Am I screwed here?

As for the truck itself, I have an 08 CrewMax 5.7L 6AT 4x4 Limited with Tow package, but with standard mirrors. I already have a Tekonsha Prodigy Brake Controller and they are installing the weight distribution hitch, but is there anything else I will need right away?...better suspension, tires, etc?

Thanks in advance!

[asianflava]

I think it is the dry weight + pin weight, there are still manufacturing differences so the actual weight will probably be different, it will probably be more.

If you really want to know, take it down to one of those CAT scales at a truck stop, pay the $8 and have it weighed.

[RoboticRV]

You won't have a problem towing your trailer with the Tundra. Especially with the weight distribution hitch. On a level highway you will have no problems doing 90-100 Kph.
My trailer fully loaded is close to the same weight as yours if not more with all my junk in there.

[cwit]

If you get your wdh set right you should be all right , if your going to long haul I would air bag the truck with a 5er this takes the harsh banging of the weight out. You are about the same as my 5er in weight. When you can find a safe place to try this shut of your brake controller and come to a hard stop, nice piece of mind that the Tundra does it fine.

[bilztrd]

Use a WD and a Sway Control. Air Bags clean up the ride. Be sure to level the combined unit.
Hope you stoled that Ragen!

[ThreeSixT]

Originally Posted by bilztrd

Use a WD and a Sway Control. Air Bags clean up the ride. Be sure to level the combined unit.
Hope you stoled that Ragen!

Thanks guys!

Got it for $29K with the WD hitch and 2 year warranty included. Think that's pretty good to what I've seen them listed for.

[FIVEPOINTSEVEN]

Originally Posted by ThreeSixT

Thanks guys!

Got it for $29K with the WD hitch and 2 year warranty included. Think that's pretty good to what I've seen them listed for.

That is awesome man. You have to take pics once you get it all hooked up to the Tundra!

[ThreeSixT]

Originally Posted by RoboticRV

You won't have a problem towing your trailer with the Tundra. Especially with the weight distribution hitch. On a level highway you will have no problems doing 90-100 Kph.
My trailer fully loaded is close to the same weight as yours if not more with all my junk in there.

even with the stock 275/55/20 Dunlops which are rated at 2409 lbs each for max load?

[wildbill129]

Originally Posted by ThreeSixT

even with the stock 275/55/20 Dunlops which are rated at 2409 lbs each for max load?

That's per tire, so that's roughly 9600 pounds max if evenly distributed across the vehicle, which it is not.

The curb weight is 5705 I think...so:

5705/2 = 2852.50
Hitch weight 1040
Total on rear 3892.5 (1946.25 per tire (Rear))

This doesn't include driver/passengers, gear in bed, loading the trailer etc. so you will be getting close. Personally, I would upgrade to an LT "E" rated tire.

[ThreeSixT]

These are the specs I pulled from Toyota for my Tundra (CM LTD 5.7L 4x4 w/ Tow Pkg):

Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. : 10100lbs
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. : 1010lbs

Is that right? And will that be able to handle this TH?

[ThreeSixT]

Originally Posted by wildbill129

That's per tire, so that's roughly 9600 pounds max if evenly distributed across the vehicle, which it is not.

The curb weight is 5705 I think...so:

5705/2 = 2852.50
Hitch weight 1040
Total on rear 3892.5 (1946.25 per tire (Rear))

This doesn't include driver/passengers, gear in bed, loading the trailer etc. so you will be getting close. Personally, I would upgrade to an LT "E" rated tire.

Yeah, I'm thinking that too. Will probably be switching to these, but they're a little pricey.

Michelin LTX A/T 2

[CEL74]

I hope I didn't missunderstand what you were asking/saying but on a tt the dry weight includes the hitch weight. So the total weight of the tt is the dry weight, the hitch weight is just that, the weight on the hitch. Typically you want 10 to 15 percent of the total weight of the trailer to be on the hitch. Then you use the weight distribution hitch to distribute the weight to all 4 wheels of the tow vehicle. You will be very close to the GVWR of the truck after you load gear and people in the vehicle. You will probably be okay on the tow capacity as long as you don't load too much stuff in the trailer. May want to check the CGVWR(combined) also.

If I misunderstood then I apologize, if not I hope this helps.

[FIVEPOINTSEVEN]

You'll be ok I think...I was on the interstate the other day and I saw a Jeep Cherokee pulling a damn 36' open fisherman!! Looked like the damn front tires of the Jeep were about to lift off the ground but he was just truckin along lol.

[CEL74]

Originally Posted by FIVEPOINTSEVEN

You'll be ok I think...I was on the interstate the other day and I saw a Jeep Cherokee pulling a damn 36' open fisherman!! Looked like the damn front tires of the Jeep were about to lift off the ground but he was just truckin along lol.

I'm glad ThreeSixT cares to ask and try to get it right instead of heading down the road like that dude!

By the way, the Toy hauler looks sweet!

[FIVEPOINTSEVEN]

Originally Posted by CEL74

I'm glad ThreeSixT cares to ask and try to get it right instead of heading down the road like that dude!

By the way, the Toy hauler looks sweet!

I'm really glad he thought to ask and come on the forum too. I hope that guy I saw the other got scolded or ticketed by the popo's.