Hey all, got the first opportunity to take my 2008 Tundra into a little snow, nothing major just a little white stuff at the hunting cabin. I was driving up a little incline (10 MPH) and the truck just wouldn't climb. It came to a complete stop, the traction control light light came on and the truck sounded like I was dragging a tree lime under the truck. You could feel a vibration/ grinding type noise under the front of the truck. I don't think that this is normal. 4WD no problem got up the hill. Any ideas.
Also, on the way back to the house headed down a snow covered hill, lightly hit the brakes to slow my descent and the truck was again making a grinding noise along with the usual ABS pulse, actually maybe a little more than the usual pulse. It was a gut wrenching noise. Needless to say I'm going to make an appointment with my dealership, just looking for a little insight.
Sounds like normal LSD and VSC operation to me. It is all done with the brakes. You'll get used to it.
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Not sure about hte grinding.. BUt the you are able to turn the vsc off for a reason.. The VSC is only supposed to be really working when you don't expect it.. If your going up a hill that's covered with snow, and you know it will be slippery.. just put it in 4wd! Or if you wnat to prove something, just turn the vsc off, and do it in 2wd. The reason vsc goes off automatically in 4wd is because engineers assume that if you are putting the truck in 4wd, you know the conditions are optimal, and are taking your own careful precautions to be safe.. Again, vsc, only meant for situations where your are unprepared for the hazard, and in 2wd.
Really, with all that noise and vibration? Man, I'd rather not have it if that's how it works, LOL.
You would rather have it, believe me. I takes a bit of getting used to, but it does work well.
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You would rather have it, believe me. I takes a bit of getting used to, but it does work well.
Ditto...I drive Vail pass, regularly and it is a great thing to have to keep you from going sideways too...helps grip. I almost peed myself the first time it kicked in, scared me half to death...now I anticipate it at certain spots. I only use 4wd when I am going up/down very snow packed roads or offroading
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Not sure about hte grinding.. BUt the you are able to turn the vsc off for a reason.. The VSC is only supposed to be really working when you don't expect it.. If your going up a hill that's covered with snow, and you know it will be slippery.. just put it in 4wd! Or if you wnat to prove something, just turn the vsc off, and do it in 2wd. The reason vsc goes off automatically in 4wd is because engineers assume that if you are putting the truck in 4wd, you know the conditions are optimal, and are taking your own careful precautions to be safe.. Again, vsc, only meant for situations where your are unprepared for the hazard, and in 2wd.
Normally, I would throw it in 4WD, but since it was my first time in the snow with the new truck, I wanted to see what it would do. I like to get a feel for the truck under my own terms before I need to figure out how it handles under emergency conditions. Later that weekend I hit a small ice storm on the highway and the truck got a little squirrelly , I felt the traction control kick and and the truck righted itself. I was just curious why I was getting the reactions I did in the snow. Now I'll just shut it off and use 4WD.
the grinding noise, is the sound of your rear brakes being destroyed by the useless traction control. im still praying for an LSD soon. the cost will be offset, by me having to do 4 times less brake jobs on the rear.
I have learned in my driveway if there is 2 snowflakes 4x4 is on. I start on a flat parking lot a auto. climbing a steep hill man do your nannies go wild and totally try to stop the truck now give it gas to make it pull and you are spinning your tires off. lol check my camera and you will see what I mean.
Putting your truck into 4WD won't necessarily stop the grinding noise you hear from the ABS unit kicking in, it may even make the noise worse. If you haven't turned off ATRAC when in 4WD, you will now have the ABS unit applying the brakes to all 4 tires instead of just two if you have any tires slipping.
If you have an 08, you can turn off VSC while in ASLD mode which will decrease the noise a little if you are sliding from side to side.
I hate the the way the truck handles on the snow for acceleration. I think there is no positive way to put down 401 lb ft of torque in the snow.
I just wish we could push a button and it made our engines retarded and gave us about half the power for snow driving. I think 200 lb ft and like 160 horsepower would be more than adequate for snow driving.
-rockstate
A lighter right foot will do that
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Yep. I deal with snow 7 months out of the year. I almost never use 4X4 with this truck...the nannies are that good. Easing into the throttle will yield forward momentum with little to no wheel spin...even on an incline.
There is just no pleasing some of you. You want 400 ft/lbs of torque and than complain that you want to be able to "dumb it down" in order to drive on snow. Really?
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Last edited by sledhead907; 12-04-2008 at 11:30 PM.
Yeah, even with the KOs it'll still spin with just a touch of the throttle on really cold, maybe icy pavement (happened when driving through St. Louis)
I can't wait to get those tires in actual snow in a few weeks. Also, I wish the throttle response was dead like on my Expedition.
-rockstate
Beware. Poor ice and snow performance was one of the main reasons I switched from the KOs to Toyos.
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Traction control and ABS in snow
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