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Old 06-05-2009, 06:29 PM
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Wow, I guess we should all get our information from Faux "News". O'Reilly, Beck and Hannity know their sheep.
Please keep in mind the GOP had complete control of the government for the first 6 of the last 8 years and had filibuster protection the last two (which they exercised more than any time in history). Wonder why they did nothing to correct these problems then???? Tuff pill to swallow, but your team blew it....BIG TIME and now you are pointing the finger everywhere but in the "right" direction.
Now, now UFO... play nice.

So what if some people think Fox News is "right wing"? At least someone has the stones to do some actual reporting and not kiss *** like you get everywhere else. It's funny that everyone who tries to slam Fox can never say that what they report isn't factual. Biased, sure, but untruthful... we'll just refer them back to Dan Blather and the fraud he tried to perpetrate.

Ah, yes, thanks for making my point exactly, Yeti. The somewhat lackluster Republicans had control for the first 6 of the last 8 years didn't they? We came out of the Clinton recession which was only fueled by 9/11 and ended up with the smallest unemployment numbers in history. Multiple attack attempts were thwarted and life was generally good for those 6 years. Then the last 2 of the 8 GWB years... well, the Dumocrats took over Congress on promises of getting us out of Iraq. They haven't even done that yet with their puppet Prez. (But he couldn't wait to turn all of the captured terrorists loose, disclose our info gathering techniques, and even says believes it's ok for Iran to have nuclear technology... all they have to do is promise to use it peacefully ... that really helps our national security, doesn't it?)

So what did we get during the 2 years when the Dems took over Congress? $5/gal gasoline, the lowest Congressional approval numbers IN HISTORY, and the housing bust due to the corruption at Fannie and Freddie which were both controlled by Clinton appointees (which the GWB administration halfway tried to investigate numerous times and were thwarted). So again, thank you for making my point.

Now we have a government that wants to control every aspect of your life, including the type of car you drive. They can't discourage us from buying trucks, so they have to make arbitrary rules to regulate them out of existence. Why would anyone who enjoys driving a big, powerful vehicle like a Tundra think that we have the right people in government? The OP is a great guy because he's not crying about someone not giving him a job or he deserves this or that, but he's rolling with the punches and he's confident in his abilities and he knows he'll survive. I applaud him!
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The last month has been real bad at my work, half have been layed off & thangs are pretty dicey to say the least. If there's a silver lining most have been able to find work. Most folks that work in the oil field for a while avoid debt like the plague, cause fortunes change in a heart beat. Don't know anythang about the Denver job market, but wish ya luck & just stay after it,cause there's a job out there with your name on it.
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By the way, how much did you get for the truck? Had similar situation back in april, am a small-business owner, and couldnt get more than $14.5 as far as selling the truck. Owe more than that so held on to it. Good luck with a job
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Now, now UFO... play nice.

So what if some people think Fox News is "right wing"? At least someone has the stones to do some actual reporting and not kiss *** like you get everywhere else. It's funny that everyone who tries to slam Fox can never say that what they report isn't factual. Biased, sure, but untruthful... we'll just refer them back to Dan Blather and the fraud he tried to perpetrate.

Ah, yes, thanks for making my point exactly, Yeti. The somewhat lackluster Republicans had control for the first 6 of the last 8 years didn't they? We came out of the Clinton recession which was only fueled by 9/11 and ended up with the smallest unemployment numbers in history. Multiple attack attempts were thwarted and life was generally good for those 6 years. Then the last 2 of the 8 GWB years... well, the Dumocrats took over Congress on promises of getting us out of Iraq. They haven't even done that yet with their puppet Prez. (But he couldn't wait to turn all of the captured terrorists loose, disclose our info gathering techniques, and even says believes it's ok for Iran to have nuclear technology... all they have to do is promise to use it peacefully ... that really helps our national security, doesn't it?)

So what did we get during the 2 years when the Dems took over Congress? $5/gal gasoline, the lowest Congressional approval numbers IN HISTORY, and the housing bust due to the corruption at Fannie and Freddie which were both controlled by Clinton appointees (which the GWB administration halfway tried to investigate numerous times and were thwarted). So again, thank you for making my point.

Now we have a government that wants to control every aspect of your life, including the type of car you drive. They can't discourage us from buying trucks, so they have to make arbitrary rules to regulate them out of existence. Why would anyone who enjoys driving a big, powerful vehicle like a Tundra think that we have the right people in government? The OP is a great guy because he's not crying about someone not giving him a job or he deserves this or that, but he's rolling with the punches and he's confident in his abilities and he knows he'll survive. I applaud him!

wow that was worded very well.
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Now, now UFO... play nice.

So what if some people think Fox News is "right wing"? At least someone has the stones to do some actual reporting and not kiss *** like you get everywhere else. It's funny that everyone who tries to slam Fox can never say that what they report isn't factual. Biased, sure, but untruthful... we'll just refer them back to Dan Blather and the fraud he tried to perpetrate.

Ah, yes, thanks for making my point exactly, Yeti. The somewhat lackluster Republicans had control for the first 6 of the last 8 years didn't they? We came out of the Clinton recession which was only fueled by 9/11 and ended up with the smallest unemployment numbers in history. Multiple attack attempts were thwarted and life was generally good for those 6 years. Then the last 2 of the 8 GWB years... well, the Dumocrats took over Congress on promises of getting us out of Iraq. They haven't even done that yet with their puppet Prez. (But he couldn't wait to turn all of the captured terrorists loose, disclose our info gathering techniques, and even says believes it's ok for Iran to have nuclear technology... all they have to do is promise to use it peacefully ... that really helps our national security, doesn't it?)

So what did we get during the 2 years when the Dems took over Congress? $5/gal gasoline, the lowest Congressional approval numbers IN HISTORY, and the housing bust due to the corruption at Fannie and Freddie which were both controlled by Clinton appointees (which the GWB administration halfway tried to investigate numerous times and were thwarted). So again, thank you for making my point.

Now we have a government that wants to control every aspect of your life, including the type of car you drive. They can't discourage us from buying trucks, so they have to make arbitrary rules to regulate them out of existence. Why would anyone who enjoys driving a big, powerful vehicle like a Tundra think that we have the right people in government? The OP is a great guy because he's not crying about someone not giving him a job or he deserves this or that, but he's rolling with the punches and he's confident in his abilities and he knows he'll survive. I applaud him!
Who would have ever thought we would have had $5 a gallon gas while a Texas oilman was president of our country and our vice president was an ex top executive at Halliburton (who by the way, moved their headquarters to Dubai after being awarded most of the no-bid contracts to rebuild the oil infrastructure in Iraq). I had no idea that the high gas prices were caused by the Dems in congress, thanks for the clarification.

I am pretty sure the rest of your points were covered in my last post except for, the government did and does not want to run GM as our President has stated countless times. At least he has the foresight to potentially get the bailout money back, should GM survive the GWB economic catastrophe.

Again, man up and except the fact that your team got us in this mess. I know it makes you feel better about what the "right" did to the country over the last 8 years but, Foxtardation is a rampant illness among the gullible. I'm done with this issue,.......get the pig and lipstick away!
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You are a perfect example of what I'm talking about! Keep on drinking that kool-aid buddy. And in a few years when all this b.s. hits the fan, tell me how this pres is making our country better. $3.4 trillion in the first 100 days! This is more than the entire Iraq war has cost to date.
I know I said I was done here, but this is for my brother. I know a few soldiers that are missing appendages and a few families that are never going to see loved ones again that will disagree with you on what the "entire Iraq war has cost to date."
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Wow im sorry. I know what its like i got laid off in Feburary and worked a $10 hr part time job until another shop heard i lost my job and offered me a new job with better benifits and pay then the job i got laid off at. Good luck hope you find something soon!!
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To the OP, keep looking and stay positive.

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Who would have ever thought we would have had $5 a gallon gas while a Texas oilman was president of our country and our vice president was an ex top executive at Halliburton (who by the way, moved their headquarters to Dubai after being awarded most of the no-bid contracts to rebuild the oil infrastructure in Iraq). I had no idea that the high gas prices were caused by the Dems in congress, thanks for the clarification.
Let's see if I can hit these in order. First, the oil prices had nothing to do with the fact that a "former oilman" was President. They had everything to do with the fact that oil is traded as a commodity, subject to speculation about the future availability and need, coupled with increasing need from China and India, among others.

Halliburton is still incorporated as a U.S. corporation, with headquarters in Texas and Dubai.

As for the "no-bid contracts," Halliburton has been awarded a contract as LOGCAP (The U.S. Army LOGistics Civilian Augmentation Program) for a number of years, allowing them to respond quickly to logistical needs for the military. Interestingly only one president that I am aware of awarded no-bid contracts to Halliburton when they weren't LOGCAP, Bill Clinton.

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I am pretty sure the rest of your points were covered in my last post except for, the government did and does not want to run GM as our President has stated countless times.
So if he says it enough, it is true? He forces the GM CEO out and has a hand in picking the replacement team, forces a bankruptcy scheme that is possibly unconstitutional and certainly illegal by U.S. bankruptcy laws on the company, and begins dictating executive pay, but he doesn't want to "run" things.

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At least he has the foresight to potentially get the bailout money back, should GM survive the GWB economic catastrophe.
Yes, keep blaming it on Bush, ignore the fact that Bush was raising warning flags that guys like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, both Democrats, scoffed at in regard to the sub-prime lending. Beyond that, if Obama were so interested in getting money back, why are TARP funds being forced upon banks, and why are they not being allowed to pay it back, except when the government says so?

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Again, man up and except the fact that your team got us in this mess. I know it makes you feel better about what the "right" did to the country over the last 8 years but, Foxtardation is a rampant illness among the gullible. I'm done with this issue,.......get the pig and lipstick away!
Actually, both teams got us into this mess, the Democrats are every bit as responsible as the Republicans, and Congress more so than Bush. Bush attempted to placate Democrats with stupid social spending, and they jumped at it, all the while stabbing him in the back. The Republicans took advantage of their majority to get their own programming passed, while not having the guts to stand up to the Democrats where it did matter. Between the pork, the RINOs, and the rest, the Republicans added up to a silent majority.

Obama is just taking the opportunity to sink us into incredible debt, consolidate government control of as many aspects of the capital market system as possible, and to strip rights even further. Don't tell me you haven't noticed that Obama has reserved many of the "executive rights and privileges" that the left was screaming about when Bush enacted them. Well, you probably haven't noticed because the screaming from the left has stopped. Without MoveOn.org to tell you what to be angry about, you just go to the default "Bush and Halliburton are bad" mantra, without examining the facts for yourself.
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IMHO neither political parties have much to run their ugly heads about. Anyone that is all that crazy about either party is the problem. They are both freaking greedy stupid idiots. Just hope this fellow in Denver catches a job quick ,cause being without a income is nuthen nice. Thangs haven't been looking to good for a while, now the american worker has alway's been able to pull these stupid greedy idiot threw somehow & now that they got us backed up in a corner it's gona be harder than ever but what choice we have?
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IMHO neither political parties have much to run their ugly heads about. Anyone that is all that crazy about either party is the problem. They are both freaking greedy stupid idiots. Just hope this fellow in Denver catches a job quick ,cause being without a income is nuthen nice. Thangs haven't been looking to good for a while, now the american worker has alway's been able to pull these stupid greedy idiot threw somehow & now that they got us backed up in a corner it's gona be harder than ever but what choice we have?
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I'm sorry for the OP's circumstances and I for one hate the "blame game". We need to figure out how to get out of the mess we're in and not expect folks in Washington to do it for us. In my neck of the woods "good" jobs are hard to find, but almost anyone can find many part-time minimum wage offerings all over the place. The dollar store and Walmart are the only ones around here who are doing a good business, they limit the hours and wages of their employees and are not unionized. One is hard-pressed to find products that are totally made in the USA. If our money is going out of the country, and we aren't "producing" much, how do we expect to come out of the recession? We export our raw materials much like we did when we were a British Colony, and China now controls our puppet strings. My son is(was) a third year teacher in the Portland metro area who along with 5-700 of his peers will not be hired back next fall due to cutbacks and lack of funding. He has a large student loan to pay off and no job with which to pay it back. Not only that, he's fed up with education so will probably leave the profession soon. What do I tell him when he asks me what he should do?We need to take back our production values so that we can compete in the market place. Since WWII we have existed primarily with our technological advantage, engineering and designing lots of high tech stuff which usually ends up being produced elsewhere but that is no longer enough. I'm a retired teacher with a fairly decent pension, but I'm scared that maybe I won't even have that for long.Let's quit the "blame game" and begin to get ourselves out of this mess. Why wait for help from the Government? They didn't ask for our help getting into the mess, why would we expect its help in getting us out of it?
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OP, Sorry to hear about losing your truck. times are tough. Hang in there.

About the rest. What makes this country successful is the people like most on this forum that get out and bust their tail daily to make it and succeed in this country without feeling they are entitled to something without putting in the sweat to get it. Those who work every day and live within their means and press on to make this a better place for their self and those they love without the government having to them what they can and can't have.

The right had their chance lately and set a pretty poor example and lost offices because of it. Now the left has stomped the gas pedal to send us faster the same direction. I try to encourage those I talk to and tell them that what will bring us out of this situation is for us to press on. And if we can keep the governmant out of every detail of our business and life we have a chance of making a better life. Washington doesn't have the answer. How can they help us by spending our money, and our grandchilderens money too.

Let me get off my soap box. We are the ones that can make the difference.
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Sorry to hear, man. Things will turn around for you.
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Please stop all that senseless BS about who's to be blamed for this mess, because with all due respect, it seems to me that you don't know $hit about what is going on not only in this country but the world for that matter.

you can blame reps or dems, left or right, it doesn't matter who (you think) is running that show. Both sides are to blame (although the stupidity of the last office reached levels not seen for a while). I just wonder why nobody has started yet blaming the illegals and I'm sure I'd see a bunch of bobbing heads like a stupid puppets.

If you have some time to spare (and since I see all that senseless BS being posted it seems that you do), please go back in time to XIX century and follow the events that led to creation of FED and how this country changed afterwards. They are the true master of puppets. The question is if you can comprehend all that? Hint: if you want to spend rest of this weekend stress free, then I'd suggest you don't even try to research and understand about what I just pointed out, otherwise you will never look at this world the same way. Maybe you should just grab a 6 pack and do an oil change instead.
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