Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
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Originally Posted by JaredPointer
Guy asks a legitimate question, and gets a jackoff answer.
In the event you took the time to read all of his post, you'd see that he bought the 4x2 when snow wasn't an issue and he had to move. Not all of us can run out and buy a new truck whenever we get the urge.
Thing is the OP resorted to calling the guy names right off the bat, he looked foolish. I find it funny the guy cheeped out and now regrets it, who would ever buy a 2 wheel drive truck anyhow? Trucks should be 4X4, if not get a sedan with a big trunk or a station wagon. If you want a truck with full capabilities then get the 4X4, otherwise you may end up like OP. Would be so embarrassed to get stuck in a little snow or mud in someone's big, bad Tundra while front wheel drive cars plow right through.
Butt hurt 2 wheel drives guys chime in now. Guy gave good advice, get the 4x4 like you should have in the first place.
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Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
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Originally Posted by Henry T
Thing is the OP resorted to calling the guy names right off the bat, he looked foolish. I find it funny the guy cheeped out and now regrets it, who would ever buy a 2 wheel drive truck anyhow? Trucks should be 4X4, if not get a sedan with a big trunk or a station wagon. If you want a truck with full capabilities then get the 4X4, otherwise you may end up like OP. Would be so embarrassed to get stuck in a little snow or mud in someone's big, bad Tundra while front wheel drive cars plow right through.
Butt hurt 2 wheel drives guys chime in now. Guy gave good advice, get the 4x4 like you should have in the first place.
Thanks for the laugh, that was a very funny reply. i hope you were making it in jest. Because it would have been thoughtless if you had been serious.
For your point, just because you think a truck should be 4X4 doesn't mean anyone else in the world thinks the way you do. If you need full capabilities, get one of those F600 pickups crew cabs, for the off chance you may ever need it. And get yourself a 12 bedroom house in case you have a party and people stay over.
Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
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Originally Posted by Henry T
Thing is the OP resorted to calling the guy names right off the bat, he looked foolish. I find it funny the guy cheeped out and now regrets it, who would ever buy a 2 wheel drive truck anyhow? Trucks should be 4X4, if not get a sedan with a big trunk or a station wagon. If you want a truck with full capabilities then get the 4X4, otherwise you may end up like OP. Would be so embarrassed to get stuck in a little snow or mud in someone's big, bad Tundra while front wheel drive cars plow right through.
Butt hurt 2 wheel drives guys chime in now. Guy gave good advice, get the 4x4 like you should have in the first place.
Are you trolling, or are you really just this close-minded? Not everyone wants or needs a 4WD. Apparently, you have a reading comprehension problem because if you will read the entire OP post, you'll see he bought a 2WD because he was in an area he didn't need a 4WD and then he had to move. OP couldn't predict the future - apparently you can. Then again, maybe you're just a jackass like the guy with the first stupid comment. Just because someone decides on a 2WD truck, doesn't mean they're cheap or stupid.
Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
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Originally Posted by Henry T
Thing is the OP resorted to calling the guy names right off the bat, he looked foolish. I find it funny the guy cheeped out and now regrets it, who would ever buy a 2 wheel drive truck anyhow? Trucks should be 4X4, if not get a sedan with a big trunk or a station wagon. If you want a truck with full capabilities then get the 4X4, otherwise you may end up like OP. Would be so embarrassed to get stuck in a little snow or mud in someone's big, bad Tundra while front wheel drive cars plow right through.
Butt hurt 2 wheel drives guys chime in now. Guy gave good advice, get the 4x4 like you should have in the first place.
Butt hurt? Okay. But I won't cheap shot.
Why would I need a 4X4? 4X4 reduces towing capacity, and I sure don't need 4X4 to drive in snow. BTW, what is snow?
The OP needs only to add some weight to the back of the truck and he will be just fine, in fact I think I read that he did.
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Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
The best thing about having a 4x2 is I don't have to get on internet forums and deride people to justify having a 4x4. My use of the 4x2 speaks for itself.
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Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
i for one like my inferior 2WD.
u know even though i have a DC also, people could argue that henryT should have gotten a crewmax n the first place...and make some childish statement like "all trucks should have the biggest cab available"...and other crap. HenryT is a troll and usually his posts end up making him look stupid so i dont mind...it reaffirms what we already know.
BTW 4x4 only gets you up to unsafe speeds faster in snow.....unless its really really so friggin deep that u actually need it but for normal snow just drive properly and you'll be fine.
Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
About 400#'s in the bed, and dedicated snow tires(I like Cooper M+S) on steelies. I had a 2004 Ram 2wd 5 speed, and with a LSD, that thing was a tank in the snow.
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Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
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Originally Posted by 07DCwhiteSR5
BTW 4x4 only gets you up to unsafe speeds faster in snow.....unless its really really so friggin deep that u actually need it but for normal snow just drive properly and you'll be fine.
Not entirely true. Four wheel drive can also enhance the inclement weather handling of a vehicle, activities like negotiating curves can be accomplished without as much oversteer or understeer especially on a slippery surface. Now when it comes time to stop the vehicle you're still no better off, but that is where appropriate tires come into play.
I know you think that you get winter weather in Mansfield, Texas but compared to the Black Hills or pretty much anywhere else in the upper Midwest or Mountain West you guys barely receive anything we would consider to be even mild winter weather. Your RWD vehicles running highway tires probably do just fine for the few times a year you have to deal with slick roads. You are correct that conservative driving habits will more often than not get you where you wish to go on slick roads even with only RWD.
On the other hand if you were to live in a place where snow was frequent, and stuck around for a long time I doubt you would put up with a 4X2 or other RWD vehicle for very long. The local police department and sheriff's office run about 50% 4X4's around here, and when it turns really ugly outside you never see the Crown Vic or Charger patrol cars. Same for the state troopers. They park them, and run the 4X4's for a reason.
It is understandable for a person who doesn't see much snow, and has no off road intentions to buy a 4X2 pick up or SUV. They've got stuff to tow or haul that a car will not accomplish so they get a 4X2 truck. No big deal. If you do live where you see a lot of snow, or you do plan on venturing off maintained roads on a regular basis in my opinion you would be foolish not to buy a 4X4 when available, unless you already have a vehicle that fills that role. Sure you can toss a couple two or three hundred pounds of sand in the back of your 4X2 if you know that snow is coming. Unfortunately in some places, especially at higher elevations 3500+ft and up, in the fall or spring that rain in your forecast may very well turn out to be snow. So unless you just like hauling around several hundred pounds of dead weight in the bed of your truck for 7 months out of the year you would be better off buying a truck with four wheel drive. Just my opinion.
Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
There's no doubt there's need for 4x4. The question is if everyone should have 4x4, and there's no way to make that argument without going full retard.
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Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
Buying what you need is way different than a stupid statement that you need to get something when it is only a want.
Living in snow country, I see the benefit of 4wd. Not the 8k more it would have cost me to get it. The reality is for me, there are a dozen hours a year where I'd really like to have 4wd. But no time where I need it. It's cheaper to have the skills
Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
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Originally Posted by SE2000
Buying what you need is way different than a stupid statement that you need to get something when it is only a want.
Living in snow country, I see the benefit of 4wd. Not the 8k more it would have cost me to get it. The reality is for me, there are a dozen hours a year where I'd really like to have 4wd. But no time where I need it. It's cheaper to have the skills
and it comes back to the skills part....thats whats most important....not any joe dick or henry has skills and has to rely on 4x4 to keep them out of trouble
Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
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Originally Posted by SE2000
Buying what you need is way different than a stupid statement that you need to get something when it is only a want.
Living in snow country, I see the benefit of 4wd. Not the 8k more it would have cost me to get it. The reality is for me, there are a dozen hours a year where I'd really like to have 4wd. But no time where I need it. It's cheaper to have the skills
In my case I work a job (Railroad) where I work on call 24 hours a day 7 days a week. So I can get called out regardless of the weather conditions, unless I lay off in advance. I have 24 miles from home to work where I traverse well over 1000ft of elevation changes via 6-7% grades. I had a car for the first year of this, and it was OK (Subaru) until the snow got deep enough to push with the bumper. Now normally I do try to layoff if I have the available days per our availability policy, so I can stay home and not have to play railroader in sub zero weather with snow on the ground. Unfortunately, I may go to work with nice weather, and by the time I get a train back to my home terminal there is a damn snow storm on the way or snow is already on the ground. So if I get in at say 0200 hrs and it is snowing like a sumbitch outside I have to drive home in it, and after about 2000 hrs the state usually doesn't bother running snow plows. So I would be a fool to own a 4X2 truck unless I had some sort of 4 wheel drive winter beater with some ground clearance.
Re: How can I make my snow handling better in my 4x2?
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Then again, maybe you're just a jackass like the guy with the first stupid comment. 
Just because someone decides on a 2WD truck, doesn't mean they're cheap or stupid.
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