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Default new wheels and balance question

I want to get some aftermarket wheel but it seems a lot of people are having balance issues and steering shake. Is there anybody on here that has aftermarket wheels that are balanced perfect with no steering wheel shake? If there not going to be perfect i guess i will have to stick with the stock ones. Let me know thanks.
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Why would aftermarket wheels and tires be a problem? You either balance them or you don't. If you have a tire with a broken belt, the tire is defective not out of balance. Even my factory 20" wheels needed to be balanced.
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i remember reading an article about how the truck felt better with 18's instead of larger wheels due to less vibrations etc.. according to the tester.
can't remember who wrote it though.c/d or road&track or the like.
i have trd 22's and it's pretty smooth so not sure.you'd think a decent balance job would cure any vibrations unless as sidpost said,the tires are defective in some way.
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Search "wheel Shimmy". You will see that it's more than "just balance or not".
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Porkchop got it.....it is all in the hands of the dude running the balancing machine. If you happen across an idiot, it will mean numerous trips back and forth to the shop. Make the second trip to another shop......most of the time problem solved.
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Come on guys, it's more than just a balance problem with these Tundra's. There have been countless attempts to fix the shimmy problem including myself. Everything, and I mean everything has been tried. From hub-centric to lug-centric, special adapters, road force, you name it, it's been tried and failed. It seems that if you get after market wheels and tires you get a steering wheel shimmy between 45mph-65mph. Some have a slight shimmy some have a bad shimmy. There are at least a dozen threads that talk about it. Toyota is more than known for having a very sensitive front suspension and steering set up. I remember a thread that asked if there was anyone who had aftermarket wheels and tires that did not have even a slight shimmy. There was not one single person that said no. Now saying this I'm sure someone will say they don't just to spite me, but regardless it's still a major problem. You can pay to have 145 people to try and get it right but so far I have not seen the definite fix. If you search different phrases you will see what I mean.
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aftermarket wheels and tires is too generalized a question. bigger offsets and more aggressive the tire as well as diameter will make tires that are hard to balance and keep in balance. Most tire shop do not have people that know more than stick the weight where the machine tells you to.
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Toyota is more than known for having a very sensitive front suspension and steering set up.
If they were that sensitive, wouldn't people doing lifts and leveling kits have a lot of problems? Hmmm .... maybe I just got lucky last time I had my tires balanced and alignment fixed.
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Uhhhhh, they are having a lot of problems!!!! Searchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. That's it I'm starting a poll.
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If it's that big of a problem, I must have missed a bunch of posts. I do read a lot of threads on a regular basis so, I guess I don't see it as such a big and significant problem. Heck, my rotors aren't warped yet though, my trip next week might fix that issue.

Is the shimmy just related to large oversize extra heavy aggressive mud tires?
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Search "wheel Shimmy". You will see that it's more than "just balance or not".

He's right. I put 20x9 Moto metal Rims and 305/55/20 Nitto Terra Grapplers on my truck and it took 3 times to get them balanced where it was "acceptable". I did a lot of searching and several people are dealing with similar issues with different set-ups. I don't know what the specific problem is and it seems no one else does either. The dealership said they could road force balance the tires and it should help. Haven't pulled the trigger yet, if I do you guys will be the first to hear the results. The proper way to balance is with weights on the front and back of the rim; however with the aftermarket rims this is not desirable so they have to be "counter balanced in a sense". I noticed my factory 20" wheels had weights on the inside edge and at different locations on the rim (from front to back). Supposedly this simulates weights on the front of the rim like on a steel wheel. The local expert talked with me about this. The problem is there are not a lot of guys that know how to do this or are willing to take the time. I don't know that this will make a difference but it makes sense.
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easy way to fix the shimmy is to go back to near or stock, i have no problems with factory sizes and i am leveled.
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I too have factory sized tires on aftermarket wheels with no problems. Ultra Motorsports Rogue wheels and Goodyear Wrangler AT/S LT285/65R18 C range tires, no shake or shimmy.
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I noticed my factory 20" wheels had weights on the inside edge and at different locations on the rim (from front to back). Supposedly this simulates weights on the front of the rim like on a steel wheel. The local expert talked with me about this. The problem is there are not a lot of guys that know how to do this or are willing to take the time. I don't know that this will make a difference but it makes sense.
What you are saying sort of makes since. If the wheel is wide, putting weight on one edge only will take the tire out of balance laterally even if it is "bubble" balanced. If the tires or wheel itself is not balanced uniformly across it's width at manufacture, that would make a good balance very difficult for most shops and impossible for average shops.
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