if you can come up with an LSD. i am SOLD!!! it seems odd that there is more demand for a locker. i would presume that there is a lot more people driving their tundras in snowy, slipperry, roadways. than there are people using them as off-roaders. but i suppose i could be wrong.
either that, or people dont understand the difference between a locker and an LSD. and theyre just asking for a locker, cause their dad had one on his chevelle back in the day. if people were to realize, that when it comes to regular on road driving. a locker is what will help get you unstuck. but an LSD is what will prevent you from getting stuck at all. or stop you from sliding off the road, if one wheel decides to start doing a one wheel peel on some black ice. then maybe the majority of requests would change to an LSD. i cant imagine there is that many guys, taking their beautiful new tundra. and bagging it off-road. i know there is guys that do it, but they certainly cant be the majority, can they??
Hey,
this guy is doing some serious leg work to get our trucks some aftermarket support. I think we need to thank him.
-Tim
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JE- think most people are low on funds and with Christmas coming around I'm sure people will be saving whattjey can for their kids and spouse. I'm really glad to hear about the locker. Advertising will be key, contact some dealers and see if they want to build an off road truck, a lot of the truck dealers here will have a few with a lift, RH front and rear bumpers, rh toolbox etc. Contact some of the more expensive suspension lift shops. Also may want to have a two or three installment plan option as they'll still have to pay to install the locker and prolly have to have someone install the compressor and switches. I'll prolly look into fir next year. Fixing to put some 275 65 20 bridgestone dueler at E load and a small lift so that's where my disposable income is going for this month, would e nice to have a locker for when I'm on my lease but that's what the 4wheelers for.
Good luck man.
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this guy is doing some serious leg work to get our trucks some aftermarket support. I think we need to thank him.
-Tim
dont take me the wrong way. i wasnt chastising him at all. i am thankful, somebody is doing something for us. and ive already said, that im waiting in line for both the aftermarket brakes being worked on. as well as the LSD.
my post was based on curiosity. and more directed to the community. if the parts i am interested in, are getting back burnered. for a product, that doesnt seem like it has much marketability. then im curious for the reason. obviously he will create products, based on what the customers say they want. and it seems very odd that the majority of people would want a locker. the member "Pullthis" is the only member i can think of off hand, who has his truck dedicated to doing something, that he would benfit more from a locker, than an LSD. so either the majority of people are confused about exactly what a locker does. or the majority just doesnt share what they really use their trucks for. because i know i havent read on the forums about anyone who uses their tundra more for off-roading, than daily driving.
so in the case that there is actually a bunch of dedicated off raoders here. then great!! lets get this locker to the market, and then hopefully they have time to help out us guys that want LSD's, afterwards.
but if most people are confused on what an LSD/locker does. then lets educate them, so that they know what product to request. and then the one with the most market behind it, will get developed.
Not a single PM, just a couple folks here in the post that have expressed a desire to purchase it.
I need PM's please.
I'm interested but, at this point, I am unable to commit to a purchase by next spring. If you end up canceling your preorder, how will this influence ARB's decision to release the rear locker next year?
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my post was based on curiosity. and more directed to the community. if the parts i am interested in, are getting back burnered. for a product, that doesnt seem like it has much marketability. then im curious for the reason. obviously he will create products, based on what the customers say they want. and it seems very odd that the majority of people would want a locker.
The only majority that will influence this decision are the credit card numbers being sent to Jowett Engineering. Obviously, what customers say they want and what they'll actually buy are not always the same. Send Brian a deposit for the LSD, especially since it seems like some of us locker guys are just a bunch of tire kickers at this point (well, at least me).
Also, I don't think Jowett is actually making the lockers or the LSD. I think he is trying to push the release of the air lockers, made by ARB, up by agreeing to prepurchase 50 units.
And you are right, LSD or locker, either way the Tundra community benefits and I would think that once one is brought to market then the other will eventually follow.
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I'm definitely interested, but before I'd commit to a purchase, I'd: 1) still want a complete parts purchase price for an install; and, 2) I'd want some additional details (pics?) of the ARB to understand how they've built the ones for the Tundra.
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Why would a person want to go with a lsd instead fo the locker??? Especially an air locker that you could select when to full lock or not.
We already have alsd which works good for light duty offroading. When things get realy hairy just lock it in for real. Then you wouldn't have to worry about auto lsd kicking in because both tires would be turning evenly.
It seems like a mech lsd would interfere with the alsd and cause problems. The full blown locker though woudl seem to complement the existing system.
and you would still have a long wheel based vehicle being towed out by
something like my JEEP!
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Why would a person want to go with a lsd instead fo the locker??? Especially an air locker that you could select when to full lock or not.
We already have alsd which works good for light duty offroading. When things get realy hairy just lock it in for real. Then you wouldn't have to worry about auto lsd kicking in because both tires would be turning evenly.
It seems like a mech lsd would interfere with the alsd and cause problems. The full blown locker though woudl seem to complement the existing system.
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Why would a person want to go with a lsd instead fo the locker??? Especially an air locker that you could select when to full lock or not.
We already have alsd which works good for light duty offroading. When things get realy hairy just lock it in for real. Then you wouldn't have to worry about auto lsd kicking in because both tires would be turning evenly.
It seems like a mech lsd would interfere with the alsd and cause problems. The full blown locker though woudl seem to complement the existing system.
go back and read my post earlier. if your main use of your truck, is DD. and you ever have to drive in snow or winter conditions. then an LSD would be what you want. and if not, you dont know the difference between an LSD and a locker.
The primary reason I'd like a LSD over an ARB is simplicity. No compressor, no air lines, no solenoids, no switches. Just install and go. With the ALSD, a high-bias Torsen LSD would be ideal for our trucks, for 99.9% of anything you ever would (could) do with them.
If you have to drive in snow/ice (on the road), you want open differentials, not a LSD. Ideally, for stability, you'd have an open center differential, as well.
Re: ARB 10.5" Locker will exist
but i suppose i could be wrong. 
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