I am trying to be positive. It would a wonderful time to release one. Hit dodge and chevy while they have their pants down. Gm is looking for more bailout money. Drop the hammer on them and release a truck that would blow away the competition. I am so sick of my ford I can't even tell you. What is the payload capacity on a new Tundra? I am pretty torn here. If I quit with the Ford I will have to buy an older 12 valve cummins for a work truck. (as I have a 20,000# trailer to yank around) Just some reg cab long box work truck. So that leaves me with a Tundra for my driver. Will it haul around my slide in truck camper? Prob not. So then I have to sell my truck camper. See thats why toyota needs to make us a diesel. Anyway enough ranting. I picked my ford up from the shop again last night. Lets roll the dice on when another injector will go out.
How many people are buying diesels anyhow? People are barely buying any cars or trucks. If Toyota does not see enough market to make money on these things they will not build them. I costs big money to develop a new vehicle. You think they are gonna bank on a few guys on a Toyota forum who wish they could buy one for what ever reason and who may or may not ever even really buy the truck?
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Toyota is already kind of making diesels in the US. They have the Hino assembly plant. It would not take a lot of trouble to plop a tundra cab on a 1 ton chassis and have a truck. But to sell it would be another story. Big trucks are about the accessories that other companies make for them. Dealing with fleet instead of individual buyers. Then when you get down into the 1 ton level, there are a lot of regualtions because they are very often used as personal vehicles. So few 2 tons are POV's that the government doesn't care yet.
Until tundra has gone mainstream in the 1/2 ton market, there is no sense to go 1 ton. And the diesel market is still volatile in this country.
Don't knock the EPA and the diesel thing in this country. I think it is a good thing. I remember when they did it to gas engines, and manufacturers said it could not be done, a 7 liter engine put out 150 hp, and when the government fail to back down, they had to spend their bonus money on R & D and now how much power these engines put out.
I would like to see the demise of flex fuel and concentrate on using corn in diesels instead.
I was always under the idea that Toyota had owned Hino for a long time. I'm guessing the difference between the two websites is that Toyota says when they first bought into Hino and Hino's website says when they finally bought them out. I sent Toyota an email asking what's up wit the difference between the two sites.
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Well for this tundra owner, I am not interested in a Diesel. I would be interested in more load capacity.....Would like to put a sled deck on the Tundra but would greatly exceed the load capacity of +-1500 lbs....10,000 lbs of towing is plenty for me but the 1500 capacity needs to be improved.....perhaps toyota should have helper springs or air bags as a factory option with (assuming everything else supports it) a corresponding increase in load capacity....
Well for this tundra owner, I am not interested in a Diesel. I would be interested in more load capacity.....Would like to put a sled deck on the Tundra but would greatly exceed the load capacity of +-1500 lbs....10,000 lbs of towing is plenty for me but the 1500 capacity needs to be improved.....perhaps toyota should have helper springs or air bags as a factory option with (assuming everything else supports it) a corresponding increase in load capacity....
Having owned diesels in the past, I'm very in favor of a diesel option for the Tundra. I would buy one. Failing that, cliff, I inquired of the rear axle manufacturer and was assured the actual axle rating is 5500 lbs and not the 4150 lbs Toyota rates it at. The reason for Toyota's rating is presumably the ride and spring rate they wanted, and to keep it a "1/2 ton" with 1,500 lb payload capacity without exceeding 7,200 lb GVWR. On that basis, air bags seemed a very worthwhile investment and I regularly exceed the rated payload with -- so far -- no problems. Well, that is if you ignore a minor firestorm on RV.net but I gave up on them long ago.
So here's another vote for the 1 ton diesel by Toyota!
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If you check around the sled deck companies, there are some that show a tundra with a 6.5ft bed rocking a deck..... I have seen them in alaska a number of times. When my daughter is able to step up to a larger sled I am tempted to build one myself and put it on my crewmax.... I would really like to not tow a trailer for only 1 sled and a mini..
For Rock.....Granted this is a modified one for a polar expedition by topgear.... For those of you who are unfamiliar, its basically a tacoma that you can get witha diesel and all sorts of off road toys....
If you check around the sled deck companies, there are some that show a tundra with a 6.5ft bed rocking a deck..... I have seen them in alaska a number of times. When my daughter is able to step up to a larger sled I am tempted to build one myself and put it on my crewmax.... I would really like to not tow a trailer...
Yup I have also seen a deck on the double cab but in reality its over weight with 2 sleds and 2 passengers and gear....Do I think the Tundra can handle it? Absolutely, however I have read on snowest where guys in half tons with sled decks are being pulled over in BC and forced to unload. I have been checked once in the last say 6-7 years of riding in BC but being forced to unload gear or deal with the possible insurance issues is not worth it to me...
The trailer is a pain no doubt, but I use a open 2 place aluminum which is light enough to man handle if necessary (unloaded of course)....
Tundrabay,
I had a good read back when the rv.net postings were happening. I have no doubt that the Tundra can handle more weight, in fact I am kind of surprised that Tundra has as low a rating as it does....On the upside, I have heard some fords have ratings under 1000lbs depending on how they were equiped....nuts I tell ya....
Hmm did not know that about BC.... In the US the consensus is that the DOT or Highway Patrol will not ticket you unless you are over gross weight for an axle... not based upon load or manufacturers rated capacity. Dont get me wrong, grossly overloading a vehicle is asking for huge amounts of trouble, but 2 500lb sleds a 200lb sled deck and people with gear should be close enough for comfort.... I dont know Canadian law, but I am betting in the states youll have no problem... question is, if I do the sled deck issue then drive to Revy.... am I gonna get pulled over.... hmmmm
Id be happy with a 3/4 or 1 ton Tundra w/5.7 gas motor.
Maybe HINO needs to build a 1 ton truck. There are plenty of Hino trucks on the road, so there must be a dealer network out there. The Hino dealers would be already outfited to service the 1 ton trucks/diesels or whatever have you. The uses for such a truck are endless... commercial, buses, chasis cabs, dumps, pickups, etc, etc. This truck line would compete directly with the big 3 F350, 450, 550., GM c/k3500, and so forth. Ford would be running scared.
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Re: Please Toyota, make us a 1 ton diesel!!
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I was always under the idea that Toyota had owned Hino for a long time. I'm guessing the difference between the two websites is that Toyota says when they first bought into Hino and Hino's website says when they finally bought them out. I sent Toyota an email asking what's up wit the difference between the two sites.
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