Toyota has been dealing with diesels longer than GM has I believe. HINO, a subsidiary of Toyota is on of the largest diesel manufactures in the world. Toyota would not have a problem implementing a one ton diesel into their lineup.
Yes they have some serious diesels and they build big trucks overseas, so to make the move is not all that difficult for them but market is.... and right now the market sucks big time.
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Gm has Isuzu and they were part of the castoff that made hino so they are at least equal in years. Plus GM has had there own separate car and trucks in the US. GM also has their european, australian and other countries who prefer diesels.
The thing in the US is we as a whole are not fond of diesels. The economical diesels are not fun to drive. the cost of our fuel makes them not economical in the big picture.
The big truck diesels are heavy so you need a certain truck structure to contain it.
Most trucks here don't see a lot of miles on them, so gas driven would seem cheaper
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Gm has Isuzu and they were part of the castoff that made hino...
That is correct. In a nutshell, Hino and Isuzu were "split" from Tokyo Gas Industry (TGI). Toyota entered into business partnerships w/ Hino and GM did the same with Isuzu in the sixties. To my knowledge, that was when they they started jointly producing products, but they didn't "buy a major stake" at that time.
Prior to those partnerships, GM officially began producing diesel engines in 1930, when they bought Winton, who had been building them in the twenties. Did Toyota ever produced a diesel engine independent of TGI, Hino or Isuzu? Someone will have to dig deep to convince me that Toyota has been "building diesels longer"... but, it really doesn't matter. The only thing that matters (as a buyer) are the engines you can buy today.
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Give me a Toyota/ Hino made inline 6cyl diesel, 1 ton,diff cab configurations, a rock solid 6spd manual and I'd be a happy camper. Increase the payload too.
I would like a 1 ton diesel tundra but I figure the entry price will be around $60,000 thats a hard sell in this economy. I imagine toyota will stick with what they have done for years and years and sell good reliable economical passenger cars until this mess blows over if it does.............
The next best bet would be a 1 ton based on the current tundra 5.7 platform maybe they can squeeze out even alittle more power and compete with gas burner F-250/350's
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man I pulled 8k with mine (38hp 4wd Kubota w/ FEL + trailer)- pulls great!! it honestly pulled 8k better than my 88 1ton (460, 5speed, 4:10's) pulled 3 round bales with the same trailer. The Tundra is just so smooth, revs so easy and handles awesome. I would not be afraid to put 10k behind it.
All this with stock POS P rated tires and no airbags (still in the darned box). Yeah they can all go to hell with their "gotta have a 1 ton for that" mantra.
man I pulled 8k with mine (38hp 4wd Kubota w/ FEL + trailer)- pulls great!! it honestly pulled 8k better than my 88 1ton (460, 5speed, 4:10's) pulled 3 round bales with the same trailer. The Tundra is just so smooth, revs so easy and handles awesome. I would not be afraid to put 10k behind it.
All this with stock POS P rated tires and no airbags (still in the darned box). Yeah they can all go to hell with their "gotta have a 1 ton for that" mantra.
I think it is a Richard issue, so they either get a big diesel pickup or a red sports car.
2005 Rockwood 26' 5'er, Michelin LTX MS tires, 270 watts of solar on the roof, 4 T-105 golf cart batteries, Xentrex converter, Outback FX2012T inverter/charger.
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2000 Tundra (bought 9/9/99)
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